The Inside Story of How the NFL's Plan for Its 1st Openly Gay Player Fell Apart

[woodbuck27]

as one commenter (jrz) on the article said:

Nonsense, he was released because he was due 1.45 million, whereas a rookie could be had for 450 thousand. Plus, they got a guy who could credibly handle kickoff duty if Walsh was injured (Kluwe's never hit a touchback when he's had to fill in). Kluwe can claim martyrdom all he wants, he was released because the Vikings found a cheaper, as-good-and-potentially-better replacement.

RE: that ..... one commenter (jrz) uses clear propaganda to drive home the stake.

There Ladies and Gentleman is 'the Company Line'.

'Stick that wherever' and don't challenge it. If you do so we don't ever need this discussion.

Once again 'Freedoms become a matter for ** those in POWER* '.

** Their prejudices, greeds and petty fears amongst other insults towards the common person.

[hoosier]

Corroboration may be hard to come by if the other guys in the room are still on the team or see themselves as having something to lose by taking Kluwe's side.

In his rebuttal of Kluwe's accusation, Priefer defended himself as a family man who has dedicated himself to raising his kids the right way. It sounds like one of his kids has been disseminating his love for gays on social media. http://blogs.citypages.com/blotter/2...on_twitter.php, Maybe the acorn doesn't fall far from the tree.

[mraynrand]

Corroboration may be hard to come by if the other guys in the room are still on the team or see themselves as having something to lose by taking Kluwe's side.

In his rebuttal of Kluwe's accusation, Priefer defended himself as a family man who has dedicated himself to raising his kids the right way. It sounds like one of his kids has been disseminating his love for gays on social media. http://blogs.citypages.com/blotter/2...on_twitter.php, Maybe the acorn doesn't fall far from the tree.

Ahh, so you're relying on kids on twitter. That's solid sourcing. You'll fit right in with modern 'journalists'

I noted that the site you linked has the guy's alleged statement in quotes. See what I mean? You're perfectly comfortable with gossip so long as it fits your POV. quod volumus facile credimus some would say!

I'd like to see some reasonably responsible sourcing.

[woodbuck27]

Ahh, so you're relying on kids on twitter. That's solid sourcing. You'll fit right in with modern 'journalists'

I noted that the site you linked has the guy's alleged statement in quotes. See what I mean? You're perfectly comfortable with gossip so long as it fits your POV. quod volumus facile credimus some would say!

I'd like to see some reasonably responsible sourcing.

Wow aren't you a real beauty.

Surrender quando i ragazzi ancora in inferiorità numerica, la saggezza si ritira prima della cavalleria ridere all'orizzonte.

[hoosier]

Relying, no. As I said before, I'm not convinced of anything yet. But unlike you, I do find the allegations credible--which is not the same as saying that I'm convinced they are accurate.

[mraynrand]

Relying, no. As I said before, I'm not convinced of anything yet. But unlike you, I do find the allegations credible--which is not the same as saying that I'm convinced they are accurate.

That's my point. The single source is a disgruntled, fired employee. Would you find such allegations credible in your own workplace?

Should a 'journalist' publish such uncorroborated allegations? Should they publish them with quote marks?

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i think its all about the fear that some people have that a group of gays are gonna someday bust through their front door and all start butt fucking each other in the middle of the family room while their family is trying to have their nightly bible study

[MJZiggy]

i think its all about the fear that some people have that a group of gays are gonna someday bust through their front door and all start butt fucking each other in the middle of the family room while their family is trying to have their nightly bible study

See that's the difference. While I realize (because I live in a place where gay marriage is legal) that this isn't going to actually happen, it would be more interesting than what is happening in my living room at present...

[red]

See that's the difference. While I realize (because I live in a place where gay marriage is legal) that this isn't going to actually happen, it would be more interesting than what is happening in my living room at present...

LOL

[mraynrand]

i think its all about the fear that some people have that a group of gays are gonna someday bust through their front door and all start butt fucking each other in the middle of the family room while their family is trying to have their nightly bible study

You've hit the nail on the head, so to speak. Every evangelical I've ever talked to has this recurring nightmare. Problem solved at last! Now if only we could classify this in the DSM and force Obamacare to pay for the treatment!

[Harlan Huckleby]

i think its all about the fear that some people have that a group of gays are gonna someday bust through their front door and all start butt fucking each other in the middle of the family room while their family is trying to have their nightly bible study

Doesn't help that this is a typical plot line in gay porn.

Why can't they just stick to pizza delivery guys interrupting lonely people taking a shower?

[mraynrand]

Why can't they just stick to pizza delivery guys interrupting lonely people taking a shower?

It's good to know you take showers, but do you use soap?

[smuggler]

Kerry Rhodes being gay isn't the problem. It's that he sexually harasses every single one of his teammates. lol

[Tony Oday]

So can we move this thread? It isnt football anymore.

[woodbuck27]

So can we move this thread? It isnt football anymore.

Do you feel threatened?

It'll be OK.

[smuggler]

I mean, their new punter outperformed his numbers from last year in every way. So...

[pbmax]

I mean, their new punter outperformed his numbers from last year in every way. So...

True, and you would hope for that if you took him in the fifth and he wasn't BJ Sander.

The question, unanswerable unless someone put it in writing, is why choose that year to use a fifth pick on a punter instead of a QB, LB or CB?

Yes, they saved cap money, but if not in cap danger was it worth losing to opportunity to get a different player? For punters, fifth is a pretty glitzy round, but its not unheard of and the Vikings might operate that way.

More easily answerable might be the quotes ascribed to the coach. The kicker has backed his coach's character and said he never heard the language Kluwe mentioned. But there would be others in that room.

[smuggler]

The question, unanswerable unless someone put it in writing, is why choose that year to use a fifth pick on a punter instead of a QB, LB or CB?

I think the answer to that question is simple. It's more likely to improve your team by taking one of the best punters in the draft than the 13th ranked QB in the draft. Most 5th round picks are lottery tickets that do not hit. Usually (lol BJ Sander) punters taken in the draft are pretty good.

[Guiness]

I think the answer to that question is simple. It's more likely to improve your team by taking one of the best punters in the draft than the 13th ranked QB in the draft. Most 5th round picks are lottery tickets that do not hit. Usually (lol BJ Sander) punters taken in the draft are pretty good.

Agreed. If they just wanted to get rid of Kluwe, they would've brought in some punters and had a competition, the way the Pack did with Crosby.

They spent a draft choice, they saw a player they wanted.

[woodbuck27]

I mean, their new punter outperformed his numbers from last year in every way. So...

That's got little to do in terms of "who said what or didn't".