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    The way Jeff Janis ran routes in Green Bay ...I'll be surprised if he can find his way too Cleveland.

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    Farewell Sweet Prince. Packers are gonna miss you.

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    Yes, hard to believe that Janis will no longer be a Packer WR.

    He had just passed Joel Mason, Lee Morris, Jack Chancy, and Jug Girard on the all-time Packers reception list. The sky was the limit for this guy. He will definitely be missed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti-Polar Bear View Post
    Farewell Sweet Prince. Packers are gonna miss you.

    What the hell was it !?

    Did MM have trouble identifying JJ and ARod in crucial pressure packed situations (check the Jersey Number Mike !) so he kept Janis on the bench?

    That Man Janis has some serious skills. He should have been coached up to be a more consistent weapon in Regular Season games. Could it be that again the Packer Coaching might be deemed suspect !?

    " Janis looks to be no more than the No. 4 receiver in Cleveland but has proven to be an excellent special teams gunner chasing down kickoffs and punts. " So again....the Green Bay Packers get to having to replace and presently weakeron ST's.

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    I think he would have looked good as a NE Patriots. ... I hope he lights it up in Cleveland.
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    Quote Originally Posted by woodbuck27 View Post
    What the hell was it !?

    That Man Janis has some serious skills. He should have been coached up to be a more consistent weapon in Regular Season games. Could it be that again the Packer Coaching might be deemed suspect !?
    Help me out here with the narrative. Is the thinking that Packer coaching was great with Jennings, Jones, Nelson, Cobb, Finley (when he was healthy), etc. etc., but they just happened to blow it on the seventh round pick whom all other teams passed over, but who was obviously extraordinarily talented? And that other teams would have successfully exploited Janis' vast talents, like they do for all the other all pro seventh round picks, but were all corporately hypnotized into passing him over for seven rounds? Or are we to believe that Rodgers, who is the autonomous, independent, self-made QB, who makes the offense and the whole organization run, despite the horrible negative influence of the coaching staff and GM, was able to drag all the other no-talent Ted loser WRs to top scoring status, but inexplicably failed in the case of Janis? Or that the coaching staff kept Janis on the team for ST play, and specifically held him back as a WR because, even though his talent was obvious to all, they simply wanted to hold him back out of spite? Or is there another narrative I'm missing?
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    Quote Originally Posted by mraynrand View Post
    Help me out here with the narrative. Is the thinking that Packer coaching was great with Jennings, Jones, Nelson, Cobb, Finley (when he was healthy), etc. etc., but they just happened to blow it on the seventh round pick whom all other teams passed over, but who was obviously extraordinarily talented? And that other teams would have successfully exploited Janis' vast talents, like they do for all the other all pro seventh round picks, but were all corporately hypnotized into passing him over for seven rounds? Or are we to believe that Rodgers, who is the autonomous, independent, self-made QB, who makes the offense and the whole organization run, despite the horrible negative influence of the coaching staff and GM, was able to drag all the other no-talent Ted loser WRs to top scoring status, but inexplicably failed in the case of Janis? Or that the coaching staff kept Janis on the team for ST play, and specifically held him back as a WR because, even though his talent was obvious to all, they simply wanted to hold him back out of spite? Or is there another narrative I'm missing?
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    Quote Originally Posted by woodbuck27 View Post
    What the hell was it !?

    Did MM have trouble identifying JJ and ARod in crucial pressure packed situations (check the Jersey Number Mike !) so he kept Janis on the bench?

    That Man Janis has some serious skills. He should have been coached up to be a more consistent weapon in Regular Season games. Could it be that again the Packer Coaching might be deemed suspect !?

    " Janis looks to be no more than the No. 4 receiver in Cleveland but has proven to be an excellent special teams gunner chasing down kickoffs and punts. " So again....the Green Bay Packers get to having to replace and presently weakeron ST's.

    " What in hell is going on around here." VL

    I think he would have looked good as a NE Patriots. ... I hope he lights it up in Cleveland.
    Orangutans are smarter than Mike McCarthy. That's the only logical reason for why McCarthy failed to utilize Janis offensively.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti-Polar Bear View Post
    Orangutans are smarter than Mike McCarthy. That's the only logical reason for why McCarthy failed to utilize Janis offensively.
    Then we can all look forward to hearing about Janis having 70 or 80 catches and a bunch of yards and TD's this year, right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fritz View Post
    Then we can all look forward to hearing about Janis having 70 or 80 catches and a bunch of yards and TD's this year, right?

    We'll see.
    Yep. I'll be happy to remind y'all...unless Rut wants the honor.

    Janis' gonna bomb opposing defenses into the abyss of oblivion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by woodbuck27 View Post
    What the hell was it !?

    Did MM have trouble identifying JJ and ARod in crucial pressure packed situations (check the Jersey Number Mike !) so he kept Janis on the bench?

    That Man Janis has some serious skills. He should have been coached up to be a more consistent weapon in Regular Season games. Could it be that again the Packer Coaching might be deemed suspect !?

    " Janis looks to be no more than the No. 4 receiver in Cleveland but has proven to be an excellent special teams gunner chasing down kickoffs and punts. " So again....the Green Bay Packers get to having to replace and presently weakeron ST's.

    " What in hell is going on around here." VL

    I think he would have looked good as a NE Patriots. ... I hope he lights it up in Cleveland.
    Not sure if you are serious but he's my view. Evidence of body of work indicates GB does a very very good job developing WR's under MM and their other coaches. Jordy Nelson, Randall Cobb, Greg Jennings, Donald Driver, Devante Adans.....etc. There is a reason for the lack of development of Jeff Janis as a WR and it's not our coaches. Hoody Genius fall into the Jeff Janis fallacy. Brady doesn't want a guy he can't trust and has limited pattern running abilities and neither does Hoody Genius

    There is a reason Jeff Janis had little interest in the free agency market; nobody sees a bright future for Jeff Janis at WR. He'll make the occasional play and I hope he kills it somehow for Cleveland.

    We may miss a good special teamer; but at WR we don't lose anything
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    The Packers win, or used to despite stubby and his ineptness. When a player has talent that needs to be coached up, he is not the coach to do it. He can coach the players that pretty much anyone could because they are so talented.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rutnstrut View Post
    The Packers win, or used to despite stubby and his ineptness. When a player has talent that needs to be coached up, he is not the coach to do it. He can coach the players that pretty much anyone could because they are so talented.
    The Packers had so much talent that they won in spite of MM? Yet Thompson was a horrible egomaniac who blew picks left and right? Does not compute.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bossman641 View Post
    The Packers had so much talent that they won in spite of MM? Yet Thompson was a horrible egomaniac who blew picks left and right? Does not compute.


    This team has holes at almost every position. That would be due to who if not the one that was in charge for the last 13 years? As far as stubby, yeah he's mediocre at best.

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    Future AllPro receiver Jeff Janis signed for $1.25 mil with no guaranteed money. A true bargain.

    No signing bonus just $100,000 workout bonus.

    Despite board expectations, Janis doesn’t seem to embody Belichickism. As he went to the Browns on the cheap.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pbmax View Post
    Future AllPro receiver Jeff Janis signed for $1.25 mil with no guaranteed money. A true bargain.

    No signing bonus just $100,000 workout bonus.

    Despite board expectations, Janis doesn’t seem to embody Belichickism. As he went to the Browns on the cheap.
    I thought he'd get at least the same $$ as Jordy. He's younger, faster, more athletic, has had no major injury, and steps up in playoff games.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mraynrand View Post
    I thought he'd get at least the same $$ as Jordy. He's younger, faster, more athletic, has had no major injury, and steps up in playoff games.
    I still don't understand some folks dislike of janis? Is it disappointment? I mean, Jesus christ, the man is gone, let him rest in peace and wish him the best.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oldbutnotdeadyet View Post
    I still don't understand some folks dislike of janis? Is it disappointment? I mean, Jesus christ, the man is gone, let him rest in peace and wish him the best.
    Speaking for me, I like him. But I also think he's pretty limited. I don't believe the Janis lovers view that he's an overlooked great or even good talent. I think that some team, like Cleveland, needing some WR talent, might be able to get him a few more chances, but I don't think he'll even be much more than a slant or go guy. I wish him well, especially since it would be nice to see Cleveland win a game or two. As far as disappointment, I have none. He was a good ST player and had some moments as WR. That's pretty good for a 236th pick.
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    Quote Originally Posted by oldbutnotdeadyet View Post
    I still don't understand some folks dislike of janis? Is it disappointment? I mean, Jesus christ, the man is gone, let him rest in peace and wish him the best.
    I am not actually dancing on his (putative) grave. Janis is a fantastic athlete and freak at WR. He was a Pro Bowl special teamer. But he just doesn't work in this offense. Maybe Hue Jackson has a better plan.

    Some board members are very pro Janis and seem to me to be projecting his shortcomings on McCarthy. Some thought the Patriots would run at the chance to acquire him. My post was directed at them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pbmax View Post
    I am not actually dancing on his (putative) grave. Janis is a fantastic athlete and freak at WR. He was a Pro Bowl special teamer. But he just doesn't work in this offense. Maybe Hue Jackson has a better plan.

    Some board members are very pro Janis and seem to me to be projecting his shortcomings on McCarthy. Some thought the Patriots would run at the chance to acquire him. My post was directed at them.
    You do know that every time Janis has a good game there will be threads started on what a stupid choice it was to let him go.
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