Many people are saying this.Originally Posted by Patler
I heard somebody in Ravens organization, perhaps the owner, give a very plausible explanation of what changed. He wanted to believe that something less brutal happened. He thought the woman was drunk, banged her head against the wall.
This sounds right to me. People are very good at believing what they badly hope is true. The video was a dose of reality and changed everything.
The mob is outside the offices though and they have defied it before: rules changes being the significant one.
From this side of the interent, it looks like the public railroaded the NFL. From inside it might look different. Biscotti (as someone mentioned) and Goodell have both been quoted that they thought it was a slap. If the investigation is actually thorough, maybe we get an answer to whether that is plausible or not.
In either event, basing your discipline on role that the handrail played in knocking out the woman was a bad idea without video. If they handing a standing committee for player discipline, with policies and procedures, they might learn from this.
Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.
I have to agree with Patler. The NFL as an entertainment "brand" has so overwhelmingly passed the NFL as a football league that it's getting harder and harder to find the actual football. Storylines of broadcasts are about individuals, not teams. Decisions are being made based on profit, and it's not that that's intrinsically bad - it's that profit is not tied to individual teams and their success (i.e. winning), it's now tied to the league as an entity, and that means an emphasis on individual stories, not on the games.
"The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."
KYPack
You and Patler need sensitivity training. Get more in touch with your feelings, soften your hearts. Become fully human.
BTW, I hate the NFL for sort-of the opposite reason: too much player movement. Just when I start to really like an individual player, like James Jones, he was gone. I hated that minnie-me center, Scott Wells. Then I warmed up to him and he left. I agree with Seinfeld's old joke that the only thing that stays constant with pro sports are the uniforms, so we're cheering for laundry.
The Pro Bowl is not a good example because there's nothing at stake. A storyline has to be created - the league has to give the game meaning.
Does your employer have the right to conduct its own investigation of something you've been accused to doing outside of work?
"The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."
KYPack
Yes.
Wow. So essentially you're willing to give up any notion of personal freedom and privacy?
Orwell was clairvoyant.
"The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."
KYPack
I am a partner at our firm and we purposefully put a conduct code in our contracts. We want ourselves and our employees to represent our firm well in the community.
We wouldn't fire someone for most offenses but want to make sure we can if we have to.
Also, wisconsin is an at will employment state. We can fire anyone for any reason.
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You'd like to think these were data-driven decisions from the league but it certainly doesn't seem that way. Seems like Goodell renders judgment base on his horoscope that day.
Rice should just do and say everything Vick said to get reinstated replacing the word "dogs" with "women." If you can manipulate the media to get kicked out you can manipulate them to get back in.
70% of the Earth is covered by water. The rest is covered by Al Harris.
I believe in 2nd and 3rd chances. I have no problem with Rice & Vick seeking redemption, I hope it is sincere.
Vick was a high profile QB with a lot of flash. Rice is a generic RB. Vick needed money, Rice is set. I don't see Rice coming back.
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Now Jonathan Dwyer is done for the year after head butting his wife and breaking her nose.
What has gotten into NFL running backs???
70% of the Earth is covered by water. The rest is covered by Al Harris.
Per PFT the Ravens knew all the details on Ray Rice right from the start. Word is they conducted an emergency damage control meeting tonight. More details to come. I should send them a thank you card for getting the media off my teams back as the sharks veer off to them so I can think about football this sunday.
Yep. Ravens execs were briefed twice about the contents of the inside elevator video, including by Rice's criminal defense attorney. At nearly the same time, both the team and the League stopped trying to get the video.
Why did they stop?Ultimately, on April 1, the Revel, under subpoena, provided Diamondstein with a copy, and he received the same copy from prosecutors on April 5. By phone, Diamondstein told Cass that the video was "f---ing horrible" and that it was clear "Ray knocked her the f--- out." The lawyer advised Cass that the video, if released, would amount to a public relations disaster for the Ravens and for his client.
It's pretty damming. Its makes the Ravens look guilty of a cover up and the League/Goodell look like accessories or incompetent.In May, the company extended the naming rights and sponsorship agreement with the team for $60 million over 10 years. A source says the bank expressed concerns about the Rice matter to the Ravens after the first TMZ video had become public.
http://espn.go.com/espn/otl/story/_/...er-goodell-nfl
Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.
I vehemently disagree with the way this country has gone in the direction of the loss of individual freedom, but I'm going to stop there.
I'd rather talk about what the hell is wrong with the Packer defense.
"The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."
KYPack
Ray Lewis on Ray Rice: “There are some things you can cover up…then there are some things you can’t”
Yep. He said that.
Lying Liars Are Lying Again: http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...-commissioner/
Didn't almost the EXACT opposite happen, or am I misreading this?
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...-indefinitely/
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...video-emerges/
Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.
Ray Rice has won his appeal and can now sign with any NFL team. Who's going to get him and for how much?
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NFL Media Insider Ian Rapoport reports that at this time there is no word on any other NFL Organizations expressing an interest in signing Ex Baltimore Raven RB Ray Rice.
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