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    Bretsky how stoked would you be if the Packers took Borland late?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Freak Out View Post
    Bretsky how stoked would you be if the Packers took Borland late?
    VERY STOKED
    But I think he'll go before our round 3 selections.
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    I absolutely think the Packers need a Safety in the first round. Most of the mock drafts I've seen have both Prior and Clinton-Dix still there at #21, so no need to trade up. The other top item we need is an ILB. I don't see Borland available "late". I'd like to see the Packers get him in the second round. I really don't want to see the packers trade down - like Thompson so often does. We need quality more than quantity. I don't see any urgent need for a TE or Center or other O-Line help or D-Line. I'd rather see us double up on Safety and ILB with the two third round picks than go for something else.

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    to me, haha is the most complete all around safety in the draft. although he's a bit slow, he runs fast in pads and anticipates well to make up for any lack of speed

    he also, like ward, wraps up when he tackles, where pryor and a lot of the others are just big hitters

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    Quote Originally Posted by red View Post
    to me, haha is the most complete all around safety in the draft. although he's a bit slow, he runs fast in pads and anticipates well to make up for any lack of speed

    he also, like ward, wraps up when he tackles, where pryor and a lot of the others are just big hitters
    But does that 40 time mean he is already as good as he is going to get?
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    Quote Originally Posted by pbmax View Post
    But does that 40 time mean he is already as good as he is going to get?
    maybe

    but would you rather get a player you know is already good, or take a guy later that MIGHT, with a lot of things going right, turn out to be as good as him someday, but faster

    i think he could still get a bit better

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    Quote Originally Posted by red View Post
    maybe

    but would you rather get a player you know is already good, or take a guy later that MIGHT, with a lot of things going right, turn out to be as good as him someday, but faster

    i think he could still get a bit better
    Thonpson on the other hand probably wants some upside in the first round or he is trading back. Getting a pro ready guy in the first round is a Schottenheimer move to playoff futility if they can't be something more.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pbmax View Post
    Thonpson on the other hand probably wants some upside in the first round or he is trading back. Getting a pro ready guy in the first round is a Schottenheimer move to playoff futility if they can't be something more.
    Think AJ Hawk...

    I really don't think - and I hope he doesn't - that Ted will trade up to get a guy he thinks will be merely a solid if unexciting pro.

    In a deep draft, and in a draft-and-develop system, I don't think Ted will trade up unless he thinks the guy he's getting is the next Nick Collins. This year, Ted's got two thirds - a luxury for him - plus two fifths (insert liquor joke here), and my thinking is that he'll just draft his spots and use those extra picks.
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    I am now officially waffling.
    I now suspect we will target Mosley in the 1st (if available) & draft a Ward or Reynolds later.
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    Why is Jimmie Ward so much better than Brooks or Reynolds? The guy is a little undersized and played at a smaller school.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fritz View Post
    Why is Jimmie Ward so much better than Brooks or Reynolds? The guy is a little undersized and played at a smaller school.
    A lot of people were impressed with Ward at the Senior Bowl. I wonder though if a lot of the mock drafts have him rated higher than most GM's do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joemailman View Post
    A lot of people were impressed with Ward at the Senior Bowl. I wonder though if a lot of the mock drafts have him rated higher than most GM's do.
    That would fit Ted to a T, Senior Bowl standout who is sitting there is the 2nd round for him. If he gets there.
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    Waffling again. After watching CJ Mosley tape, I'm just not all that impressed. What about Ted swapping his #2 for a #3 to move up a bit - and landing WR Evans in the first? Then with 3 3rd round picks, gets Reynolds, Borland and the TE from Iowa?
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    I just want a pro bowler. Haven't drafted one for a few years.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Smidgeon View Post
    I just want a pro bowler. Haven't drafted one for a few years.
    that remains to be seen
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    Quote Originally Posted by mraynrand View Post
    that remains to be seen
    Do you think any of the recent draft picks have that in them? I can think of Hayward, but if he can't stay healthy...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Smidgeon View Post
    Do you think any of the recent draft picks have that in them? I can think of Hayward, but if he can't stay healthy...
    Other than Hayward and Lacy, Daniels has a shot, and there are a lot of potential guys who are too young/have too long an injury history to tell yet: Neal, Perry, Bakhtiari, Jones, Hyde. Andrew Datko will not be a pro bowler.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mraynrand View Post
    Other than Hayward and Lacy, Daniels has a shot, and there are a lot of potential guys who are too young/have too long an injury history to tell yet: Neal, Perry, Bakhtiari, Jones, Hyde. Andrew Datko will not be a pro bowler.
    None of those listed really strikes me as the type of player that will rise above. They all may be good football players, but the only one I think has the potential there is Jones. And not because he flashed the pro-bowl potential (except the singular play where he walked the LT back for a sack), but because Dline can take a while to shine. Daniels, I think, will be roughly Cullen Jenkins level: not quite probowl, but still really good. Maybe I'm being wistian in my assessment of the potential talent of the draft picks aside from Lacy and Hayward, but outside those two, no player has come in and lit up the field since Clay.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Smidgeon View Post
    I just want a pro bowler. Haven't drafted one for a few years.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ThunderDan View Post
    In the last two years we have had the:
    2012 D Rookie of the Year
    2013 O Rookie of the Year
    Touche. I keep forgetting Lacy. :$
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