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    Quote Originally Posted by Smeefers View Post
    Actually, the 49ers DID buy that bed, having kept him around after he was discharging a firearm in his home while it was full of party guests. Just because the packers are playing extra politically correct does not mean that they were told, by the league, to take it down. The packers do thier best to be a class act org., so the second it smelled of controversy, they pulled it. There was no apology, no disciplanary action, no nothing. You're infering quite a bit from one action that could be taken any number of ways.

    And i disagree. The infractions are just about as aggregious as the other- which is to say extremely minor.
    This is precisely my point. He has been a knucklehead before. So have Packer players. But teams don't advertise this fact on Twitter unless there is a CBA coming up. The Packers don't need the NFL office to call to realize they need to take it down because they don't want the 49ers to post a photo of a Packer uniform the next time a Green Bay player does something stupid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pbmax View Post
    This is precisely my point. He has been a knucklehead before. So have Packer players. But teams don't advertise this fact on Twitter unless there is a CBA coming up. The Packers don't need the NFL office to call to realize they need to take it down because they don't want the 49ers to post a photo of a Packer uniform the next time a Green Bay player does something stupid.

    Teams exist to increase the value of teams and the League. Newspapers exist to increase their readership. The issues are not the same.
    The next time a packer does something stupid, I fully expect other teams reporters to write about it and advertise the fact that they're writing about it - especially if it's an interesting subject that will pull page views. That's sort of what reporting is. You initially made it sound like vic did something wrong by writing about it. Is that the stance you're taking or did I miss the boat there? I'm not arguing why it was taken down, I'm arguing that it shouldn't of been taken down because it was a valid topic.
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    So let me understand this. Vic is under fire for telling the truth...a truth that nobody disputes.

    On a completely different note, I can't believe what is happening to our culture (and world).
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    Quote Originally Posted by bobblehead View Post
    So let me understand this. Vic is under fire for telling the truth...a truth that nobody disputes.

    On a completely different note, I can't believe what is happening to our culture (and world).
    It was the Twitter blurb about Vic with the picture that got taken down, not the Ask Vic answer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pbmax View Post
    It was the Twitter blurb about Vic with the picture that got taken down, not the Ask Vic answer.
    Yea, I get the subtle diff. Point is that the individual pictured has been a complete asshat and nobody is disputing that. Giving visual aids to enhance an answer doesn't strike me as a big thing. As an organization you gain a reputation based on the totality of things. As a whole I think the niners are a bunch of assholes and it starts with their narcissistic coach. If they don't like the picture, stop drafting morons. I wouldn't have any problem with a picture of Jolly when discussing guys from bad neighborhoods that have trouble breaking free. (Did I even come close to spelling narcissistic correctly?)
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    Quote Originally Posted by bobblehead View Post
    Yea, I get the subtle diff. Point is that the individual pictured has been a complete asshat and nobody is disputing that. Giving visual aids to enhance an answer doesn't strike me as a big thing. As an organization you gain a reputation based on the totality of things. As a whole I think the niners are a bunch of assholes and it starts with their narcissistic coach. If they don't like the picture, stop drafting morons. I wouldn't have any problem with a picture of Jolly when discussing guys from bad neighborhoods that have trouble breaking free. (Did I even come close to spelling narcissistic correctly?)
    I agree that a picture doesn't convey everything about an org yet it can convey a particular problem the org has. I just found it amazing the Packers would even step into the kind of situation.

    ESPN has this debate all the time when reporting on player mis-behavior. The fact that an NFL team used that photo was interesting, if not remarkable. In ESPN's case, I think the photo of the uniform is a double edged sword. Yes, it can tell you about a franchises current state and should be fair game, but a decision needs to be made whether the report is about the team or the individual.

    For the Packers, its like gossiping about your own company's problems. You just don't want to get caught up in it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bobblehead View Post
    Yea, I get the subtle diff. Point is that the individual pictured has been a complete asshat and nobody is disputing that. Giving visual aids to enhance an answer doesn't strike me as a big thing. As an organization you gain a reputation based on the totality of things. As a whole I think the niners are a bunch of assholes and it starts with their narcissistic coach. If they don't like the picture, stop drafting morons. I wouldn't have any problem with a picture of Jolly when discussing guys from bad neighborhoods that have trouble breaking free. (Did I even come close to spelling narcissistic correctly?)
    "narcissistic" is real close to the actual spelling of narcissistic.
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    Whenever you're not sure, it is wise to remember that this whole structure exists to make money.
    Always follow the money. If that doesn't answer the question, then ask, "Who controls the flow of money?"
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    The fact that an NFL team used that photo was interesting, if not remarkable.
    That's the issue. Other teams should leave this stuff alone. These guys, fairly or not, are all under the microscope from the media anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fool
    There’s really no need for any more dirt to be piled onto him, yet that’s exactly what the Green Bay Packers have done this week.
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    Knock it off!

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    Sir what's your opinion on San Francisco 49ers DE Aldon Smith...?

    Man's response:

    Well well let me see...ahh well.....ahhh:

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    http://www.mercurynews.com/49ers/ci_...ep-aldon-smith

    49ers GM Baalke wants to keep Aldon Smith

    By: Cam Inman ... cinman@bayareanewsgroup.com

    Posted: 04/25/2014 12:27:45 PM PDT ..... 3 Comments

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    Vic rip? RT @art_stapleton: With @packers signing Lyerla, I'd say it's within @49ers' rights to question where they draw line on character.
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