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    Quote Originally Posted by woodbuck27 View Post
    Get out the chains or see this situation for what it is; see TE JerMichael Finley for what /who he is and "his double speak".

    Visits to other NFL teams for a new contract and extending his NFL playing career and ** wanting to retire a Green Bay Packer** . Which is it JerMichael?

    Why not simply use some common sense after sound analysis.

    ** The latter (or retirement as a Green Bay Packer) is obtainable as long as he simply faces the facts of his injury and retires now. I believe that after all the blah blah blah that it's going to most reasonably end right there.

    Let's exmine it closer. Being silly isn't ever an incurable thing.

    A) Jermichael Finley has shown more interest in the Seattle Seahawk and New York GIANTS organizations than a return to Green Bay where he has said a return means he want the same money he got pre-injury. See Ted Thompson and his needs to re-sign at least one of WR's Jordy Nelson and/or Randall Cobb....2015 UFA"s and star Green Bay Packer offensive weapons that offer superior returns than any injury afflicted JerMichael Finley.

    B) JerMichael Finleys injury is similar to former star Safety Nick Collins and what was the Green Bay Packers response to that? Is a man like TT (the Green Bay Packers) going to make a decision about one star player (Nick Collins) and where the same decision is prudent RE: JerMichael Finley. Do an about turn? NO ! That's not logical nor likely.

    Not that Ted Thompson can ever be accused of certain consistency. Take his latest draft and the claim he always drafts BPA. That went has gone out the door like used bath water after the 2014 draft. That TT is such a kidder.

    C) Mike McCarthy is a football coach. MM is being over emotional and not using managerial skills required of an NFL GM. Ted Thompson won't be bringing JerMichael Finley back because Mike McCarthy can't use common sense and let go of this damaged TE.

    D) Focusing on the personal and the man himself. JerMichael Finley isn't the brightest bulb on the tree. To allow JerMichael Finley to come back (again ... see Nick Collins) and with that decision. Put him at high risk that one hit could risk much more than his football life. Isn't going to happen.

    It's a certain bye bye to TE JerMichael Finley and TE play in Green Bay.

    Take that to the bank.
    Yes, JF has stated he is willing to look at other teams, but his preference is retiring as a Packer. It's a business and he knows it is. The Packers can cut bait with him at any time and he knows it so he is keeping his options open as he wants to play again.

    PFT article supporting this: http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...lling-seattle/

    This is extremely common when a player hits FA, they always say they want to stay with their former team in order to get more offers on the table and thus get the best contract. To be shocked that a player does this is being obtuse to the realities of the NFL.

    You haven't shown any evidence that MM is being "overly emotional" about Finley. His statement that was referenced above shows nothing remotely over the top.

    I personally don't think Finley is coming back given the injury. I would be surprised if he does end up getting cleared given what has been reported.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cheesehead Craig View Post
    Yes, JF has stated he is willing to look at other teams, but his preference is retiring as a Packer. It's a business and he knows it is. The Packers can cut bait with him at any time and he knows it so he is keeping his options open as he wants to play again.

    PFT article supporting this: http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...lling-seattle/

    This is extremely common when a player hits FA, they always say they want to stay with their former team in order to get more offers on the table and thus get the best contract. To be shocked that a player does this is being obtuse to the realities of the NFL.

    You haven't shown any evidence that MM is being "overly emotional" about Finley. His statement that was referenced above shows nothing remotely over the top.

    I personally don't think Finley is coming back given the injury. I would be surprised if he does end up getting cleared given what has been reported.
    Then you and I are on the same page.

    mraynrand as usual wants to be contentious with his bullshit style of raisin HELL here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by woodbuck27 View Post
    Then you and I are on the same page.

    mraynrand as usual wants to be contentious with his bullshit style of raisin HELL here.
    The only agreement we have is that we don't believe that Finley will be here next season. I still disagree about your other comments on MM and Finley.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cheesehead Craig View Post
    The only agreement we have is that we don't believe that Finley will be here next season. I still disagree about your other comments on MM and Finley.
    Disagreeing is OK Cheesehead Craig. I expect that from you. It's been my clear perception that we're not on the same page in terms of Packer focus and direction. The basis of my complaints:

    I expect a lot from the Packer leadership.

    Your disagreement isn't insulting or gone to where "the Problem Child" is so challenged to avoid. You don't post to trash as this other member does with such enjoyment. Your not sadistic to other members.

    That BS never works with me. All that gets is double time from me or total disregard and disrespect. I make it a promise to myself tt wade right in or best ...ignore trouble and fix that fast.

    On point....

    I 've never understood "all the positive rage" and JerMichael Finley. How well has he produced?

    JerMichael Finley has been overpaid as I've seen it for "only 20 TD's" in six (6) seasons.

    He's been available for 70 games and started 48. He's had 223 receptions for 2785 yards and 12.5 Yards/Catch. He's been a continuing concern and a project to act sensible. His maturity issues have been obvious.

    Now add the latest injury and prognosis for worse. Add his impetuous nature and given the non medical clearance to play again. Add contradictory reports of remaining a Green Bay Packer.

    I rest my case on why are we coveting his future service.
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    Quote Originally Posted by woodbuck27 View Post

    Your disagreement isn't insulting or gone to where "the Problem Child" is so challenged to avoid. You don't post to trash as this other member does with such enjoyment. Your not sadistic to other members.

    That BS never works with me. All that gets is double time from me or total disregard and disrespect. I make it a promise to myself tt wade right in or best ...ignore trouble and fix that fast.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cheesehead Craig View Post
    Yes, JF has stated he is willing to look at other teams, but his preference is retiring as a Packer. It's a business and he knows it is. The Packers can cut bait with him at any time and he knows it so he is keeping his options open as he wants to play again.

    PFT article supporting this: http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...lling-seattle/

    This is extremely common when a player hits FA, they always say they want to stay with their former team in order to get more offers on the table and thus get the best contract. To be shocked that a player does this is being obtuse to the realities of the NFL.
    “I mean there’s a couple of teams I would love and would be on the first flight out to play with but like I said the Packers are going to come at me with something and I’m going to go to them first and see what they’ve got and if it’s not [**] I would love to be on the first flight out to good old Seattle,”

    **no numbers, but assuming he means "enough"

    Finley wants to be well paid. No shocker there. I hope he passes his physical eventually and the Packers can get him for a reasonable contract. If not, I really hope he goes to the AFC.
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