The number of WRs is off because I initially had Dorsey over Banjo, and forgot to change the WR number. I only have 53 players listed though.Originally Posted by call_me_ishmael
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The number of WRs is off because I initially had Dorsey over Banjo, and forgot to change the WR number. I only have 53 players listed though.
"There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson
Could the Packers cut the 3rd, 4th and 5th rounders? Bob McGinn is arguing Thorton and Bradford don't deserve a spot on the roster. In his latest article, McGinn compares the tenancity, speed, style, etc of Boyd and Thorton and alleges that Thorton does not show up at all. Furthermore, McGinn is also saying that the battle between Rolle and Goodson is very heated. It sounds like Bob is high on Goodson but even higher on Rolle.
As of today, I think this will be the roster... A goofy TT roster as usual
QB (3) Aaron Rodgers, Matt Flynn, Scott Tolzien
RB (4) Eddie Lacy, James Starks, DuJuan Harris, John Kuhn
WR (5) Jordy Nelson, Randall Cobb, Jarrett Boykin, Davante Adams, Jeff Janis
TE (4) Richard Rodgers, Andrew Quarless, Brandon Bostick, Ryan Taylor
OL (7) David Bakhtiari, Josh Sitton, J.C. Tretter, T.J. Lang, Bryan Bulaga, Derek Sherrod, Corey Linsley
DL (6) Mike Daniels, Datone Jones, Josh Boyd, Khyri Thornton, Mike Pennel, Luther Robinson
OLB (7) Clay Matthews, Julius Peppers, Mike Neal, Nick Perry, Jayrone Elliott, Adrian Hubbard, Andy Mulumba
ILB (4) Brad Jones, A.J. Hawk, Jamari Lattimore, Sam Barrington
CB (7) Sam Shields, Tramon Williams, Casey Hayward, Davon House, Jarrett Bush, Jumal Rolle, Something Goodson
S (4) Morgan Burnett, Micah Hyde, Ha-Ha Clinton-Dix, Sean Richardson
ST (2) Mason Crosby, Tim Masthay
Last edited by call_me_ishmael; 08-24-2014 at 01:07 AM.
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I agree with McGinn's take on Bradford. At OLB he has physical limitations. He has done next to nothing and doesn't flash much potential. I disagree with him on Thornton. McGinn had this same take after the first two games. I saw enough to be intrigued by Thornton's potential. I haven't watched his play closely from the most recent game. I think you give a big guy with potential more time--especially when you aren't tremendously deep at the position (with Raji and Guion out). Goodson definitely made more plays in the most recent game, but Rolle looks to be a better athlete and he's more polished. I think Goodson is a candidate for the PS. I only list 8 guys because I'm not entirely clear on the new rule and I'm not positive which guys qualify for the extra two spots.
"There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson
Late in McGinn's article, he praises Josh Boyd. In last year's training camp, Boyd was no more impressive than Thornton is this year. I remember Trgovac talking about how "Boyd is being asked to do some things he hasn't done before". Yet by late in the season, Boyd was a contributor, and he's now seen as a key member of the DL. I think they will give Thornton some time.
As for Bradford, I just don't think he can play OLB. As I mentioned in another thread, I saw him at practice Tuesday standing next to Clay Matthews, and the difference physically is striking. He looks even shorter than his listed height. The question is whether he can play ILB. The Packers tried moving Terrell Manning inside and it didn't work. If they feel Bradford can't play there, he's probably worthless.
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Bob is nuts if he thinks Thorton doesn't stick, even more after Raji. Boyd didn't look ready last year either. http://cheeseheadtv.com/blog/observa...own-time-loomsCould the Packers cut the 3rd, 4th and 5th rounders? Bob McGinn is arguing Thorton and Bradford don't deserve a spot on the roster. In his latest article, McGinn compares the tenancity, speed, style, etc of Boyd and Thorton and alleges that Thorton does not show up at all. Furthermore, McGinn is also saying that the battle between Rolle and Goodson is very heated. It sounds like Bob is high on Goodson but even higher on Rolle.
As of today, I think this will be the roster... A goofy TT roster as usual
The Packers don't dump draft picks after one year unless you are Ricky Elmore. That is especially true of lineman.After Saturday's performance, it would be extremely difficult to part ways with Johnny Jolly. The bigger question might be, what does Jolly's emergence mean for rookie Josh Boyd? It's hard to see the Packers keeping both Jolly and Boyd. The Packers can try to stash Boyd on the practice squad, but once they cut him, they also risk another team signing him to their 53-man roster.
Speaking of Elmore, Bradford might give him a run for his money in Packer lore. If they need a spot, he could be gone because he really doesn't have a position to project to.
Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.
Edited Ish's roster a bit.
QB (3) Aaron Rodgers, Matt Flynn, Scott Tolzien
RB (4) Eddie Lacy, James Starks, DuJuan Harris, John Kuhn
WR (5) Jordy Nelson, Randall Cobb, Jarrett Boykin, Davante Adams, Jeff Janis
TE (4) Richard Rodgers, Andrew Quarless, Brandon Bostick, Ryan Taylor
OL (9) David Bakhtiari, Josh Sitton, J.C. Tretter, T.J. Lang, Bryan Bulaga, Derek Sherrod, Corey Linsley, Aaron Adams
DL (5) Mike Daniels, Datone Jones, Josh Boyd, Khyri Thornton, Mike Pennel, Letroy Guion
OLB (6) Clay Matthews, Julius Peppers, Mike Neal, Nick Perry, Jayrone Elliott, Andy Mulumba
ILB (4) Brad Jones, A.J. Hawk, Jamari Lattimore, Sam Barrington
CB (6) Sam Shields, Tramon Williams, Casey Hayward, Davon House, Jarrett Bush, Jumal Rolle
S (4) Morgan Burnett, Micah Hyde, Ha-Ha Clinton-Dix, Sean Richardson
ST (3) Mason Crosby, Tim Masthay, Brett Goode
Guion is obviously going to be PUPed, which means a DL(Robinson or Gray), a TE(Perillo), or a LB(Hubbard or Bradford) could get his roster spot for the first six weeks. It'd be awfully nice if they could put him on the active roster before the end of the preseason so we didn't have to wait six-seven weeks for him.
Guion practiced today so he can't be PUPed. His presence now after Raji's injury might end up being as big a FA pick up as Peppers.
Try again with an 8th lineman, ish
The thing that might get Bradford cut is the fact that he's not excelling on special teams. The packers were probably hoping for that if nothing else.
Ring the bells that still can ring
Forget your perfect offering
There is a crack, a crack in everything
That's how the light gets in - Leonard Cohen
I would love it if Nick Perry would lose like 20 lbs. Not only would he be quicker, but I reckon he might stay healthy for a change.
I don't know. His game is power. You might be right, but I'm skeptical.
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After watching this last game closely, I don't think they'll PUP Guion, if he's healthy by the start of the season. Made a mistake having Raji inadvertently on the last roster. I also don't think Janis is ready to contribute. His route running needs a lot of work. Outside of his one catch and TD last week, he's done nothing. I actually think Dorsey is more ready to contribute. It might be more likely to get Dorsey on the practice squad though. I also thought Palmer flashed a little more than Mulumba. I think Palmer might be a better special teams player, so I'm projecting him with a spot. The Packers usually only activate 7 OL, so their 8th OL might come from the PS until Tretter gets back. Probably Adams.
QB (3) Aaron Rodgers, Matt Flynn, Scott Tolzien
RB (4) Eddie Lacy, James Starks, DuJuan Harris, John Kuhn
WR (5) Jordy Nelson, Randall Cobb, Jarrett Boykin, Davante Adams, Jeff Janis
TE (4) Richard Rodgers, Andrew Quarless, Brandon Bostick, Ryan Taylor
OL (8) David Bakhtiari, Josh Sitton, J.C. Tretter, T.J. Lang, Bryan Bulaga, Derek Sherrod, Corey Linsley, Lane Taylor
DL (6) Mike Daniels, Datone Jones, Josh Boyd, Letroy Guion, Mike Pennel, Khyri Thornton
OLB (6) Clay Matthews, Julius Peppers, Mike Neal, Nick Perry, Jayrone Elliott, Nate Palmer
ILB (4) Brad Jones, A.J. Hawk, Jamari Lattimore, Sam Barrington
CB (6) Sam Shields, Tramon Williams, Casey Hayward, Davon House, Jarrett Bush, Jumal Rolle
S (4) Morgan Burnett, Micah Hyde, Ha-Ha Clinton-Dix, Sean Richardson
ST (3) Mason Crosby, Tim Masthay, Brett Goode
IR: Jared Abbrederis, Don Barclay, Colt Lyerla, B.J. Raji
PS: RB Rajion Neal, WR Kevin Dorsey, WR Myles White, TE Justin Perillo, OT Aaron Adams, OC Garth Gerhart, LB Andy Mulumba, LB Carl Bradford, LB Joe Thomas, S Chris Banjo
"There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson
Goodson seems to have fallen off everyone's radar. Last few posters don't even have him making the PS while Rolle gets on the 53. I don't know about that, generally speaking the Packers find a way to get their draft picks onto the team. Bradford might be an exception though.
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I'd agree if he were a 4th or 5th round pick, but it seems to me they are much more willing to cut late round picks and put them on the PS.
"There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson
Practice squad would seem like the perfect spot for Goodson, who seems to be more than willing and not lacking in talent, but very inexperienced. But then when you consider that he is already 25 years old, you start to wonder if a year on PS and another year or two on PS and/or as a backup is really worth it over a younger guy.
I brought that up earlier - he's a little long in the tooth to be considered for developmental spot. I imagine they'd want him to come along pretty quickly.
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Great athlete, but greener than goose shit.
He got 180ed twice last game.
PS at best.
Maybe a year of NFL coaching might make him a candidate for 15's roster.
I wouldn't worry about Goodson's age. Brent Grimes is a top-10 corner in his thirties. PS the guy and hope for the best.
Lmao what does that have to do with Goodson being a 25 year old injury prone rookie? Yea I agree we should PS him though.
The point is, three years from now, if he's solid or better, a 28 year old Goodson is way more valuable than a 21 year old JAG. Basically, focus on the play and not the age.
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