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    Don't think Janis would survive waivers to make it to the PS.

    I would definitely like to see Worthy stick with the team, b/c I want a guy like him to play DE in the base. Since he seems to have no potential beyond eating up snaps, stick him in the base, and keep guys like Daniels fresh for subpackage duty.

    Don't want to see Daniels, D. Jones, or Perry playing in base at all.
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    I had hopes for Harper, and he seemed to do well in the minicamps. But since the start of TC, he seems to hit the "Thumbs Down" lists every couple days. With the competition at WR, that won't make it. He needs to turn it around quickly.

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    QB (3) - Aaron Rodgers, Matt Flynn, Scott Tolzien
    RB (4) - Eddie Lacy, James Starks, DuJuan Harris, John Kuhn
    WR (6) - Jordy Nelson, Randall Cobb, Jarrett Boykin, Davante Adams, Myles White, Jeff Janis
    TE (4) - Brandon Bostick, Richard Rodgers, Andrew Quarless, Ryan Taylor
    OL (8) - David Bakhtiari, Josh Sitton, J.C. Tretter, T.J. Lang, Bryan Bulaga, Derek Sherrod, Corey Linsley, Lane Taylor
    DL (6) - Mike Daniels, B.J. Raji, Datone Jones, Josh Boyd, Khyri Thornton, Mike Pennel
    OLB (6) - Clay Matthews, Julius Peppers, Nick Perry, Mike Neal, Carl Bradford, Nate Palmer
    ILB (4) - A.J. Hawk, Brad Jones, Jamari Lattimore, Sam Barrington
    CB (5) - Sam Shields, Tramon Williams, Casey Hayward, Davon House, Jarrett Bush
    S (4) - Morgan Burnett, Mycah Hyde, Ha-Ha Clinton-Dix, Sean Richardson
    ST (3) - Mason Crosby, Tim Masthay, Brett Goode

    Keep 3 QB, 4 RB, 6 WR, 4 TE, 6 DL, 7 OLB, 6 CB, or 5 S? The Packers can keep any extra guy at 4 of those positions, and it's hard to see how it will shake out. There are some guys I like (Rajion Neal at RB, Jayrone Elliott at OLB, Jumal Rolle at CB, Chris Banjo at S) that they may keep, depending on what positions they decide to stock.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HarveyWallbangers View Post
    QB (3) - Aaron Rodgers, Matt Flynn, Scott Tolzien
    RB (4) - Eddie Lacy, James Starks, DuJuan Harris, John Kuhn
    WR (6) - Jordy Nelson, Randall Cobb, Jarrett Boykin, Davante Adams, Myles White, Jeff Janis
    TE (4) - Brandon Bostick, Richard Rodgers, Andrew Quarless, Ryan Taylor
    OL (8) - David Bakhtiari, Josh Sitton, J.C. Tretter, T.J. Lang, Bryan Bulaga, Derek Sherrod, Corey Linsley, Lane Taylor
    DL (6) - Mike Daniels, B.J. Raji, Datone Jones, Josh Boyd, Khyri Thornton, Mike Pennel
    OLB (6) - Clay Matthews, Julius Peppers, Nick Perry, Mike Neal, Carl Bradford, Nate Palmer
    ILB (4) - A.J. Hawk, Brad Jones, Jamari Lattimore, Sam Barrington
    CB (5) - Sam Shields, Tramon Williams, Casey Hayward, Davon House, Jarrett Bush
    S (4) - Morgan Burnett, Mycah Hyde, Ha-Ha Clinton-Dix, Sean Richardson
    ST (3) - Mason Crosby, Tim Masthay, Brett Goode

    Keep 3 QB, 4 RB, 6 WR, 4 TE, 6 DL, 7 OLB, 6 CB, or 5 S? The Packers can keep any extra guy at 4 of those positions, and it's hard to see how it will shake out. There are some guys I like (Rajion Neal at RB, Jayrone Elliott at OLB, Jumal Rolle at CB, Chris Banjo at S) that they may keep, depending on what positions they decide to stock.
    I think Pennel is PS. They can get by with 5 DL until Worthy and Guion are ready. That spot goes to either Rajion Neal, Rolle or Banjo. Mulumba vs. Palmer is also to be decided.
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    I think Pennel is PS. They can get by with 5 DL until Worthy and Guion are ready. That spot goes to either Rajion Neal, Rolle or Banjo. Mulumba vs. Palmer is also to be decided.
    I agree that Guion could come back and win the spot. I think they need to keep one or the other though. They need somebody with size to backup up Raji.

    I think Palmer has a good margin on Mulumba... mostly because he's better on special teams.

    Recent camp reports had Jayrone Elliott playing well lately, and I was more impressed with him vs. Tennessee than Mulumba. I think Mulumba is this year's Dezman Moses.
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    I think Mulumba is this year's Clinton-Dix in that they both have lean builds and big shoulders, they look tough, like they're gonna take somebody's head off or at least steal their lunch money.




    I think the packers can use a couple bad asses on defense. Mulumba is a project, I expect he gets another year.

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    With Peppers, Matthews, Neal, Perry, and Palmer (plays on a lot of #1 special teams), there isn't room for more than one project at that position. I suspect Bradford will be the project at that spot. I'd rather they keep a project like Rolle at CB.
    "There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson

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    McGinn has an updated roster projection. I think he's pretty spot on here:
    http://www.jsonline.com/sports/packe...271343571.html

    I can't really quibble with anything--other than having "Ray Barrington" instead of "Sam Barrington".

    I agree with his assessment at WR (although you'd think Boykin would be a lock), TE (he has Bostick and Rodgers as 1a and 1b), OL, QB, RB, DL, and DB. He has Barrington moving ahead of Lattimore. I did think Barrington had a better game against Tennessee. He seems a bit higher on Hubbard than me (on the fence vs. longshot). He thinks both Palmer and Mulumba struggled against Tennessee. I've kept Palmer on the roster because he's on a lot of special teams units. He calls the OLB group remarkable. With so much depth and some talent that might get cut, I wonder if we'll see a trade at the position.
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    Interesting Note on one of the perceived reaches in round 3

    Overview: It's possible the Packers did as well 30 minutes after the draft as they did in the third round. Pennel, Robinson and Gray all have performed at or above the level of Thornton, the third-round pick.

    Thornton had a rough debut against the Titans in terms of aggressiveness, awareness and point-of-attack strength. His $563,252 signing bonus guarantees a roster berth, but after three weeks there's little indication he can contribute much as a rookie.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bretsky View Post
    Interesting Note on one of the perceived reaches in round 3

    Overview: It's possible the Packers did as well 30 minutes after the draft as they did in the third round. Pennel, Robinson and Gray all have performed at or above the level of Thornton, the third-round pick.

    Thornton had a rough debut against the Titans in terms of aggressiveness, awareness and point-of-attack strength. His $563,252 signing bonus guarantees a roster berth, but after three weeks there's little indication he can contribute much as a rookie.
    McGinn is pissed because Thornton wasn't in his top 100 and it cost him the contest that he won 3 years in a row.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bretsky View Post
    Interesting Note on one of the perceived reaches in round 3
    Did McGinn have anything positive to say in the article?
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    I liked the way Thornton played against Tennessee. I thought he was better than Robinson--who played alongside him much of the game. The guy looks like he has good potential, and I wasn't even enamored with the pick. They also said that he was more of a projection pick and needed some seasoning. I thought he looked quite similar to Josh Boyd.
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    Last year people at this time were saying similar things about Boyd. He did nothing of consequence in the preseason. Nothing. Yet late in the year he was playing and had some pretty good moments.

    At least B hasn't started calling Thornton Carrie yet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joemailman View Post
    Last year people at this time were saying similar things about Boyd. He did nothing of consequence in the preseason. Nothing. Yet late in the year he was playing and had some pretty good moments.

    At least B hasn't started calling Thornton Carrie yet.


    I've been very nice to TT the past few years; as I promised I didn't even rip him and often defended him for the 2 years after he brought home a Super Bowl.

    He has the best QB in the NFL who rarely mucks up with bad mistakes. The time has come for TT to deliver again or the time will really come for us to start calling him out for why he's not delivering
    LIFE IS ABOUT CHAMPIONSHIPS; I JUST REALIZED THIS. The MILWAUKEE BUCKS have won the same number of championships over the past 50 years as the Green Bay Packers. Ten years from now, who will have more championships, and who will be the fart in the wind ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bretsky View Post
    I've been very nice to TT the past few years; as I promised I didn't even rip him and often defended him for the 2 years after he brought home a Super Bowl.

    He has the best QB in the NFL who rarely mucks up with bad mistakes. The time has come for TT to deliver again or the time will really come for us to start calling him out for why he's not delivering
    The 2011 and 2012 drafts weren't very good. I think TT rebounded in a big way in 2013 though. Could be 5 or more starters from that draft, including a stud in Lacy. That could be one of his best. Obviously too early to say much about 2014.
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    Drafting is about being the least terrible.

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    QB (3) Rodgers, Flynn, Tolzien
    RB (4) Lacy, Starks, Harris, Kuhn
    WR (5) Nelson, Cobb, Boykin, Adams, Janis
    TE (4) Bostick, Quarless, Rodgers, Taylor
    OL (8) Linsley, Tretter, Lang, Sitton, Bakhtiari, Bulaga, Sherrod, Taylor
    DL (6) Boyd, Jones, Thornton, Daniels, Pennel, Raji
    OLB (6) Bradford, Matthews, Elliott, Perry, Neal, Peppers
    ILB (4) Barrington, Hawk, Brad Jones, Lattimore
    CB (5) Bush, Hayward, House, Shields, Williams
    S (5) Hyde, Burnett, Clinton-Dix, Richardson, Banjo
    ST (3) Crosby, Masthay, Goode


    IR: Abbrederis, Barclay, Lyerla

    PUP: Guion

    PS: Gerhart, Aaron Adams Goodson, Doughty, Thomas, Rajion Neal, Perillo, Dorsey*

    *Not sure if Dorsey qualifies for PS.
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    Forget your perfect offering
    There is a crack, a crack in everything
    That's how the light gets in - Leonard Cohen

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joemailman View Post
    QB (3) Rodgers, Flynn, Tolzien
    RB (4) Lacy, Starks, Harris, Kuhn
    WR (5) Nelson, Cobb, Boykin, Adams, Janis
    TE (4) Bostick, Quarless, Rodgers, Taylor
    OL (8) Linsley, Tretter, Lang, Sitton, Bakhtiari, Bulaga, Sherrod, Taylor
    DL (6) Boyd, Jones, Thornton, Daniels, Pennel, Raji
    OLB (6) Bradford, Matthews, Elliott, Perry, Neal, Peppers
    ILB (4) Barrington, Hawk, Brad Jones, Lattimore
    CB (5) Bush, Hayward, House, Shields, Williams
    S (5) Hyde, Burnett, Clinton-Dix, Richardson, Banjo
    ST (3) Crosby, Masthay, Goode


    IR: Abbrederis, Barclay, Lyerla

    PUP: Guion

    PS: Gerhart, Aaron Adams Goodson, Doughty, Thomas, Rajion Neal, Perillo, Dorsey*

    *Not sure if Dorsey qualifies for PS.
    I like this projection. I had kept Palmer on because of special teams, but I can't see them cutting a guy with Elliott's pass rush potential. I'm not sure Bradford deserves to stick, but he was a 4th round pick. Plus, if he can't play OLB, he still offers potential at ILB. It will be interesting to see how Guion performs. I'm guessing they'll give Pennel some snaps earlier in the game to see how he does against better competition. Rolle would be one of the tougher cuts for me. I know Harris had the fumble, but I liked the way he ran. I think this game actually helped his stock--since it looks like he's closer to where he was before the injury.
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    I am fully off the Perry Bandwagon. I still had a toe on there, but after seeing him look very average against the 2s and 3s this week, it wouldn't shock me at all if he were cut.

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    I thought Perry looked fine. Had some decent bull rushes and set a hard edge in the run game. If I get time to rewatch, I'll focus on him. He doesn't have the agility to get around the edge--like Clay. He does have a good bull rush and pushes the pocket and sets up other guys. I thought Daniels had a great game.
    "There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson

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