Abbrederis or Janis?

[Brandon494]

There is a great chance we only keep 5 WRs this season with Nelson, Cobb, Adams, and Boykins being locks. If YOU had to make the decision who would you pick? The pro ready hometown guy with some injury concerns or the small school athletic guy who has star potential but might be a season or two away.

[mraynrand]

Training camp eval then try to hide one on the PS until Cleveland comes knocking. Suspect Abracadabra will make it because he will know the offense and play smart football.

[Brandon494]

I doubt we'll be able to hide either player on the PS, I think it will come down to special teams. Abbrederis was the higher pick but Janis was projected to go higher, it will be a interesting battle for sure.

[pbmax]

HIs head worries me. With the Packers approach to injuries, he is going to be on the sidelines a lot.

[Guiness]

I don't know I'd call Boykin a lock, or so quick to write off Myles White. A big knock on White was his slight build, but after an off-season of work he's reported to have put on 10lbs and is a respectable 6' 190lbs now.

What's up with Saginaw Valley State, btw? If Janis makes the Packers, that's 2 players from there (Jeff Heath, Cowboys FS) in the NFL, you don't often see that out of a Div II team! Especially one who's most notable athletic achievement of late seems to be the USBC Men's National Collegiate Bowling championship!

[Brandon494]

Trust me Boykin is a lock and them taking three WRs in the draft tells you what they think about White or any of the other WRs on the practice squad.

[Pugger]

Trust me Boykin is a lock and them taking three WRs in the draft tells you what they think about White or any of the other WRs on the practice squad.

You might be right. Maybe they felt the need to upgrade that position over what they had so maybe we can keep both on the 53.

[Guiness]

Trust me Boykin is a lock and them taking three WRs in the draft tells you what they think about White or any of the other WRs on the practice squad.

I was as surprised as any when the Packers took 3 WRs. I felt like 1 was good, then let the holdovers from last year, White, Gillett, Harper and Dorsey compete for the last spot. But we all know that you have to throw a few darts at the board to get a hit, I also remember the reaction to drafting Flynn in the 7th after taking Brohm with a 2nd round pick...

[Pugger]

I was as surprised as any when the Packers took 3 WRs. I felt like 1 was good, then let the holdovers from last year, White, Gillett, Harper and Dorsey compete for the last spot. But we all know that you have to throw a few darts at the board to get a hit, I also remember the reaction to drafting Flynn in the 7th after taking Brohm with a 2nd round pick...

Well, with how horrid Brohm was it was a good thing we took Flynn later on.

[mraynrand]

Trust me Boykin is a lock and them taking three WRs in the draft tells you what they think about White or any of the other WRs on the practice squad.

White will be praying to the god of skinny punks that he makes the roster. So will Abracadabra.

[Zool]

Abba Zabba and Myles White will do battle for the "lightest players in training camp". Both of them get knocked down by a stiff breeze and blow away never to be heard from again. The homer in me would like to see Abba Zabba make the team, but I'm not hopeful.

[Pugger]

How come everyone laments about Abbrederis being a light weight at 6'1" and 195 lbs but not Janis at 6'3" and 219 lbs? I've seen pictures of both and they seem to be of similar build.

[Brandon494]

How come everyone laments about Abbrederis being a light weight at 6'1" and 195 lbs but not Janis at 6'3" and 219 lbs? I've seen pictures of both and they seem to be of similar build.

Abbrederis has a history of conclusions and only put up 4 bench reps at the combine...lowest of all combine participants. Janis put up 20 bench reps and Ted said he had him ranked as the 2nd best athlete out of all the WRs in this draft.

[mission]

Abbrederis has a history of conclusions and only put up 4 bench reps at the combine...lowest of all combine participants. Janis put up 20 bench reps and Ted said he had him ranked as the 2nd best athlete out of all the WRs in this draft.

The difference between 4 reps and 20 is the difference between me and a football player!

I'll root for Abbrederis, but I wouldn't be surprised if Janis opens some eyes and is healthier, landing him a spot.

[Guiness]

The difference between 4 reps and 20 is the difference between me and a football player!

I'll root for Abbrederis, but I wouldn't be surprised if Janis opens some eyes and is healthier, landing him a spot.

That 4 reps is scary low, but I have some empathy. My bench #s always sucked, and search me why. I spent enough time in the gym, my other lifts were ok, but I struggled to get to 225 on the bench, forget doing reps, search me why. I didn't lack for strength on the field, so it's not like it's a direct relationship.

[mission]

That 4 reps is scary low, but I have some empathy. My bench #s always sucked, and search me why. I spent enough time in the gym, my other lifts were ok, but I struggled to get to 225 on the bench, forget doing reps, search me why. I didn't lack for strength on the field, so it's not like it's a direct relationship.

I was in the same boat... could squat out of the gym and had to do legs with the linemen. We had a lot of guys maxing over 300 on the bench... I put up maybe 3 reps at the height of my training with 225, but would be hard pressed to do one now. I don't work out anymore. I threw up 185 at my buddies house just messing around a few times. Hopefully I could still push the double plates once. You'd think Abbrederis could do more just going through college programs, but arm length and all of that factors in a lot as well.

[Patler]

How come everyone laments about Abbrederis being a light weight at 6'1" and 195 lbs but not Janis at 6'3" and 219 lbs? I've seen pictures of both and they seem to be of similar build.

I think 2" and 20+ lbs can make a lot of difference when comparing their bodies to those of the DBs they will be facing. Janis will be taller and heavier than a great many of the DBs he will face; Abbrederis, not so much.

[Fritz]

I think 2" and 20+ lbs can make a lot of difference when comparing their bodies to those of the DBs they will be facing. Janis will be taller and heavier than a great many of the DBs he will face; Abbrederis, not so much.

I vote Janis. Local boy, and on a recent radio interview on a local Detroit station he was asked who he patterned himself after. He said Jordy Nelson. Of course, they are both pretty fast white men.

[MadScientist]

How come everyone laments about Abbrederis being a light weight at 6'1" and 195 lbs but not Janis at 6'3" and 219 lbs? I've seen pictures of both and they seem to be of similar build.

From the latest 'Ask Vic' column:

Janis and Abbrederis were on my planes to and from the Senior Bowl and coming back from the combine. I was stunned at how much bigger Janis is than Abbrederis. Janis really looks the part and he runs 4.4. Why was he available? Probably because he’s coming out of a small school in one of the deepest wide receiver drafts ever.

So at least to someone who has seen them both at the same time, Janis looks bigger. Janis needs to refine his skills, Abbrederis needs to refine (redefine) his body. Nether is a sure thing, but hopefully at least one is up to the task.

[Pugger]

How come everyone laments about Abbrederis being a light weight at 6'1" and 195 lbs but not Janis at 6'3" and 219 lbs? I've seen pictures of both and they seem to be of similar build.

I guess I'm wrong! I was reading the opinion column on packers.com and Vic said both Abbrederis and Janis were on the same airplane he was going to the Senior Bowl and he was shocked at how much bigger Janis was when he got to see them side by side.