Official Non NFC North NFL News 2014 (Unofficial Johnny Manziel)

[smuggler]

She hits him before he even enters the elevator and then lunges at him grom across the elevator when theyre inside. He never moves toward her and only strikes her when she comes at him. He is definitely in the wrong, but she was part of it. Also, a good deal of the damage he inflicted was collateral - she strikes her head by coincidence when she falls.

[Guiness]

She hits him before he even enters the elevator and then lunges at him grom across the elevator when theyre inside. He never moves toward her and only strikes her when she comes at him. He is definitely in the wrong, but she was part of it. Also, a good deal of the damage he inflicted was collateral - she strikes her head by coincidence when she falls.

Watch when he comes into the elevator - he goes to her, looks like he gets in her face and yells at her, then slaps her in the side of the head or something. Then he moves to the other side of the elevator and she lunges. As far as collateral damage - he caused her to go down, so he's responsible for that too.

[ThunderDan]

She hits him before he even enters the elevator and then lunges at him grom across the elevator when theyre inside. He never moves toward her and only strikes her when she comes at him. He is definitely in the wrong, but she was part of it. Also, a good deal of the damage he inflicted was collateral - she strikes her head by coincidence when she falls.

That is stupid. He fucking hit her in the head and made her head/body smash into the side of the elevator and then the floor.

[smuggler]

That is stupid. He fucking hit her in the head and made her head/body smash into the side of the elevator and then the floor.

This is stupid. She got in the face of a professional athlete. What was she expecting, pillowtalk? Point is. They are both responsible.

[ThunderDan]

This is stupid. She got in the face of a professional athlete. What was she expecting, pillowtalk? Point is. They are both responsible.

You are correct they both are responsible. That doesn't mean that Ray Rice should hit his now wife.

[smuggler]

No shit ThunderDan. Its clear his response was wrong. The problem I have is that people seem to tjink his mistake erases her mistakes. Its dumb as shit and extremely annoying.

[pbmax]

Does it? When I watch, this is what I see:
1. she walks by him and slaps him in the face
2. they get in elevator, he says something to her, and hits her, looks like in the face as well
3. he moves to other side of elevator
4. she runs at him, her head snaps around (can't see the blow, but he must've hit her) and she goes down

btw wow was she OUT. Not groggy, disorientated or anything, out cold.

She hits him before he even enters the elevator and then lunges at him grom across the elevator when theyre inside. He never moves toward her and only strikes her when she comes at him. He is definitely in the wrong, but she was part of it. Also, a good deal of the damage he inflicted was collateral - she strikes her head by coincidence when she falls.

He spit at her when she walked by in the hallway outside the elevator, that precipitated the slap and also put to lie to her being the aggressor.

And I think he might have done it again when they were close to the buttons in the elevator. But definitely the first time.

[Guiness]

He spit at her when she walked by in the hallway outside the elevator, that precipitated the slap and also put to lie to her being the aggressor.

And I think he might have done it again when they were close to the buttons in the elevator. But definitely the first time.

Ouch, didn't see that, but hadn't heard about it so wasn't looking. If he was the initial aggressor, it would change things a lot.

Obligatory 'magic loogie' video