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    We are allowed to talk about quarterbacks not named Manziel in here, right?

    Freeman dumped by the Giants. Eli was able to participate in OTAs, so his camp arm wasn't needed anymore.

    Crazy how the wheels fell off for this guy. 26 years old, went to the probowl as an alternate in 2010. I gave him the benefit of the doubt in TB with Shianco there, but he's been through 2 more franchises now. His career path is looking like VY's.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Guiness View Post
    We are allowed to talk about quarterbacks not named Manziel in here, right?

    Freeman dumped by the Giants. Eli was able to participate in OTAs, so his camp arm wasn't needed anymore.

    Crazy how the wheels fell off for this guy. 26 years old, went to the probowl as an alternate in 2010. I gave him the benefit of the doubt in TB with Shianco there, but he's been through 2 more franchises now. His career path is looking like VY's.
    So was Schiano right and Morris wrong?

    Or did Schiano cause the problem?

    Outside of his rookie year, he was never in good hands with coaching on the offense. The Bucs were still reeling from Jagodzinski's aborted tenure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pbmax View Post
    So was Schiano right and Morris wrong?

    Or did Schiano cause the problem?

    Outside of his rookie year, he was never in good hands with coaching on the offense. The Bucs were still reeling from Jagodzinski's aborted tenure.
    I'm looking at what happened after his time with the Bucs as much as anything else. The Vikings got a long look at him, and decided to pass. It didn't take the Giants long to let him go, keeping Curtis Painter instead.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Guiness View Post
    I'm looking at what happened after his time with the Bucs as much as anything else. The Vikings got a long look at him, and decided to pass. It didn't take the Giants long to let him go, keeping Curtis Painter instead.
    He was clearly a camp arm for the Giants and didn't get much time with them.

    The Vikes are interesting, I wonder whether he was let go independently or if he went out with a new O coaching staff?
    Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guiness View Post
    We are allowed to talk about quarterbacks not named Manziel in here, right?

    Freeman dumped by the Giants. Eli was able to participate in OTAs, so his camp arm wasn't needed anymore.

    Crazy how the wheels fell off for this guy. 26 years old, went to the probowl as an alternate in 2010. I gave him the benefit of the doubt in TB with Shianco there, but he's been through 2 more franchises now. His career path is looking like VY's.
    I wonder if he'll try the CFL?

    Former star and personally troubled WR Chad Johnson (formerly Chad Ochocinco) has been signed by the Montreal Alouettes. He seems happy about that and Montreal is a world class city. It'll be interesting to see how he does in the CFL. I hope he can turn his life around.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chad_Jo...ican_football)
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    Quote Originally Posted by woodbuck27 View Post
    I wonder if he'll try the CFL?

    Former star and personally troubled WR Chad Johnson (formerly Chad Ochocinco) has been signed by the Montreal Alouettes. He seems happy about that and Montreal is a world class city. It'll be interesting to see how he does in the CFL. I hope he can turn his life around.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chad_Jo...ican_football)

    Its too cold in Montreal and the french look down at black folk. Its real hard for Montreal to attract top notch talent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Just Jeff View Post
    Its too cold in Montreal and the french look down at black folk. Its real hard for Montreal to attract top notch talent.
    Holy fuck that noise I'm hearing must be your butt cheeks slapping together while you're talking. The french, as a whole, are very tolerant and accepting of blacks. There is a very active Senegalese community in Montreal, among others. France itself maintained relationships with its African colonies and I have seen more Africans walking around France than any other European country. They have some messed up policies concerning immigration to Quebec, but they apply to everyone!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Just Jeff View Post
    Its too cold in Montreal and the french look down at black folk. Its real hard for Montreal to attract top notch talent.
    Noah Way!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Just Jeff View Post
    Its too cold in Montreal and the french look down at black folk. Its real hard for Montreal to attract top notch talent.
    It does get cold in montreal in the winter months. It gets cold in Canada in the winter months.

    The CFL schedule runs from (this seaon ) June 09, 2014 through to the playoffs and the Grey Cup Game scheduled for NOV. 30, 2014. It's not cold generally in Canada in late November.

    Montreal Average Monthly Temperatures:

    Avg. May: 14.5ºC / 58.1ºF

    June: 19.3ºC / 67ºF

    July: 22.3ºC / 72ºF

    Aug.: 20.8ºC / 69ºF

    Sept. :15.7ºC / 60ºF

    Oct. : 9.2ºC / 49ºF

    Nov. : 2.5ºC / 36.5ºF

    It's football not beach volleyball.

    Montreal and racism: I believe your pulling our legs but just in case. Montreal is in Canada. If your a decent person here you don't get into trouble. You don't see trouble and that related to racism. If your a White or Black and you screw up or attract the attention of the law. You'll be generally treated the same inspite of your race or color if your attitude is cool.

    I'll offer this:

    http://www.educ.ualberta.ca/css/Css_35_4/BRmontreal.htm

    In The Road To Now...a description of the rather rueful black experience in Montreal, Quebec.

    Author (Dorothy Williams) provides a historic overview of the black experience in Montreal; from the days of black slavery in New France to the present.


    Williams asserts that the period between 1897 and 1930 witnessed the beginning of a genuine black community in Montreal. During this thirty year period, important institutional development took place:

    The establishment of the Union United Church in 1907.

    The Universal Negro Improvement Association in 1919.

    The Negro Community Centre in 1927.

    Williams monitors the activities of these three institutions in assessing the changing nature of Montreal's black community.

    ** For black males, most of whom lived in the city's West End. The railways were the dominant source of employment. Blacks were hired as redcaps, sleeping car porters and cooks.

    This racially segregated hiring policy had many advantages for the railways:

    Wage rates for black labor were low.

    The author maintains that the predominantly white travelling public gained a feeling of superior status when attended to by black personnel, thus enhancing the romance of rail travel.

    ** The dominant occupation for black females was domestic service with all the pitfalls associated with that occupation.

    ** World War II brought changes to both male and female working blacks.


    Women found employment in war industries and many of the porters working for the CPR were unionized, giving them added job security and presumably better working conditions.

    ** The decade of the 1960s marked the introduction of "well educated" French-speaking Haitians into Montreal's black community.

    ** In the 1970s the city's West End no longer defined the boundaries of Montreal's blacks as the latter moved into white districts giving rise to increased friction between the two races.

    An overview:

    From their introduction to New France as slaves until the arrival of the well-educated French-speaking Haitians of the 1960s, the author Dorothy Williams states that Montreal blacks have been subjected to constant racial discrimination.

    In earlier periods as porters, redcaps and domestics to more recent years as taxi drivers, they have had to struggle to preserve some semblance of human rights and dignity.

    During periods of prosperity for white Quebeckers, black Montrealers have failed to prosper equitably because of racial prejudice. The struggle continues in the present-day environment where police-black relations in the city remain problematic.

    So there is support for your post there Just Jeff except for this:

    Chad Johnson will be given celebrity status and if he's a decent citizen will be treated like you or I would be. If he screws up he'll place himself in jeopardy and that and the police means stay calm and keep your mouth shut. Get your lawyer ASAP for support. In every police force there exists an element of darkness that you hope won't beset you. Police forces have their pricks...bad guys.

    Your post and the temperatures in Montreal being a deterrent and Chad Johnson playing for the Montreal Alouettes:

    Not so and Montreal or Canadian in general (average temperatures) AND playing Football.


    *** http://en.montrealalouettes.com/video/index/id/96417

    Press Conference: Chad Johnson arrives at training camp


    " Alouettes receiver Chad Johnson met the Montreal media for the first time on Wednesday on the campus of Bishop's University in Sherbrooke, QC. "


    Posted : May 28, 2014


    *** http://en.montrealalouettes.com/video/index/id/96417

    http://en.montrealalouettes.com/video/index/id/96417

    ONE-on-ONE with Chad Johnson


    We caught up with the newest member of the Alouettes, former Pro Bowl receiver Chad Johnson, to talk about his return to pro football, find out what he knows about Montreal, and get some tips on Twitter."


    Posted : May 27, 2014

    *** http://en.montrealalouettes.com/video/index/id/96417

    Chad Johnson works out with the Alouettes

    Posted : April 17, 2014

    Now the winter months and Montreal. Quebec,Canada is something else:

    http://gocanada.about.com/od/quebe1/...al-Weather.htm
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    Quote Originally Posted by Guiness View Post
    We are allowed to talk about quarterbacks not named Manziel in here, right?

    Freeman dumped by the Giants. Eli was able to participate in OTAs, so his camp arm wasn't needed anymore.

    Crazy how the wheels fell off for this guy. 26 years old, went to the probowl as an alternate in 2010. I gave him the benefit of the doubt in TB with Shianco there, but he's been through 2 more franchises now. His career path is looking like VY's.
    Yea I don't understand, I still remember this guy beating us in his first start in the NFL. Everyone was going crazy after that lost calling for TT head on another message board I use to post on. I tried to defend TT stating how we were going in the right direction and was ban by a Favre loving Admin. Anyway long story short I started posting here more and we went on to win the SB that year. I made another account to post a "told ya so" thread on that board and was ban again.


    I also heard the Packers were thinking about bringing him in if they didn't sign Flynn.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brandon494 View Post
    Yea I don't understand, I still remember this guy beating us in his first start in the NFL. Everyone was going crazy after that lost calling for TT head on another message board I use to post on. I tried to defend TT stating how we were going in the right direction and was ban by a Favre loving Admin. Anyway long story short I started posting here more and we went on to win the SB that year. I made another account to post a "told ya so" thread on that board and was ban again.


    I also heard the Packers were thinking about bringing him in if they didn't sign Flynn.
    He fits the mold...puss armed game manager.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brandon494 View Post
    I tried to defend TT stating how we were going in the right direction and was ban by a Favre loving Admin.
    What board was that? I post on many boards but hard to find one where TT hasn't been beatified.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Just Jeff View Post
    What board was that? I post on many boards but hard to find one where TT hasn't been beatified.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Just Jeff View Post
    What board was that? I post on many boards but hard to find one where TT hasn't been beatified.
    With all respect;

    The meaning of beatified:

    http://www.walksofitaly.com/blog/vat...vatican-Teresa

    ** “Beatification” is the step right before sainthood.

    ** By beatifying someone, the Church ( Edit: The Roman Catholic Church) proclaims that the person in question is:

    a) definitely in Heaven, and

    b) definitely able to plead to God on your behalf if you pray to him.

    (This is theoretically true for any other Christians in Heaven, too. But beatification is meant to be a rigorous process in order to prove this is the case).

    Before you can be beatified, the Church (Edit: The R.C. Church) has to investigate and make sure that all of your writings show “purity of doctrine” (i.e., nothing against the faith!) and that all of your actions were motivated by virtue.
    If you pass that test:

    For that level, the Church has to prove also either that you were martyred or that you caused a miracle after your death.

    **** After beatification, you’re then called “Blessed.”



    Ted Thompson - Green Bay Packers GM:

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    " Ted Thompson played college football at Southern *Methodist* University....



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    * If I assume? that then Ted Thompson was raised as "a Methodist" or a long ways apart from being raised as a Roman Catholic !?

    RE: Ted Thompson:

    Can we agree to move right past the status of being recognized as being beatified >>>> to something more appropriate for Ted Thompson:

    Doesn't he deserve the status description as ...BLESSED !?
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    Reports out of the Giants camp now are that Freeman couldn't pick up the offense. He was pulled from a practice session for lining up the O incorrectly. He was only there for 6 weeks, but he should've had the basics by then. You have to wonder how he had that great season.

    He might've been primarily a camp arm for the Giants, but you have to think they were hoping he'd turn into a bit more.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Guiness View Post
    Reports out of the Giants camp now are that Freeman couldn't pick up the offense. He was pulled from a practice session for lining up the O incorrectly. He was only there for 6 weeks, but he should've had the basics by then. You have to wonder how he had that great season.

    He might've been primarily a camp arm for the Giants, but you have to think they were hoping he'd turn into a bit more.
    That basically what I heard coming out of Minnesota last year. Tampa Bay must have had a pretty simple system that he could handle in 2010.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joemailman View Post
    That basically what I heard coming out of Minnesota last year. Tampa Bay must have had a pretty simple system that he could handle in 2010.
    He scored a 27 on the wonderlic test so I don't think thats the problem. There have been rumors about him being a coke head which makes the most sense to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brandon494 View Post
    He scored a 27 on the wonderlic test so I don't think thats the problem. There have been rumors about him being a coke head which makes the most sense to me.
    When Freeman was with the Vikes and then didn't even suit up after a bit, the whole "insider" talk on the radio up here was that he wasn't picking up the offense and simply was bad. The injury talk was deemed as a coverup for his complete suckiness. He may have scored a 27 on the Wonderlic, but we all know there's book smart and there's football smart.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brandon494 View Post
    He scored a 27 on the wonderlic test so I don't think thats the problem. There have been rumors about him being a coke head which makes the most sense to me.
    smarts has nothing to do with it i think. i have a very high IQ (well pretty high anyways), yet in high school i could not learn or remember plays to save my life, no matter how many times we ran them or how many hours i studied them

    all those x's and o's and lines just turned into big jumbles up messes once they got into my brain

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    Quote Originally Posted by red View Post
    smarts has nothing to do with it i think. i have a very high IQ (well pretty high anyways), yet in high school i could not learn or remember plays to save my life, no matter how many times we ran them or how many hours i studied them

    all those x's and o's and lines just turned into big jumbles up messes once they got into my brain
    Pot smoking could explain this apparent contradiction.
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