Did Safety become a strength?

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With the addition of Haha, and the health of Richardson, the second year jump of Micah Hyde, did we see Safety go from haha...as in a joke, to a new era?

We all know the Haha story, but by reports, Hyde has been lining up with the #1's and Richardson is looking good in shorts, which should be his weakness.

Basically we added a first round talented rookie, and have 2 guys who should make the second year jump...richardson effectively lost last offseason, so I consider this his second year.

i don't know if it is a strength yet. the guys are young, it might take time

the key at this point, IMO, is getting burnett out of the starting lineup. maybe its hyde, maybe its richardson, but one of those two taking over for burnett along side HaCD, could turn that unit from a complete joke into a solid unit

if burnett stays, i would say the unit would still be suspect

and of course it all depends on HaCD living up to his potential

[Guiness]

i don't know if it is a strength yet. the guys are young, it might take time

the key at this point, IMO, is getting burnett out of the starting lineup. maybe its hyde, maybe its richardson, but one of those two taking over for burnett along side HaCD, could turn that unit from a complete joke into a solid unit

if burnett stays, i would say the unit would still be suspect

and of course it all depends on HaCD living up to his potential

Disagree. I think a lot depends on Burnett returning to his 2012 form, the one that earned him the contract he's got.

[woodbuck27]

Disagree. I think a lot depends on Burnett returning to his 2012 form, the one that earned him the contract he's got.

Yes....we need to see Morgan Burnett tackle well and we need to see health at the FS and SS positions.

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Disagree. I think a lot depends on Burnett returning to his 2012 form, the one that earned him the contract he's got.

i think burnett is only still on this team because of his contract making it almost impossible to cut him right not. and i forget which beat writer it was (maybe mcginn), but he agreed by saying burnett would not be the second safety this year because he played himself out of a job

burnett was bad, he was just as bad as jennings last year and blew just as many assignments. plus, burnett was responsible for making the secondary calls and getting everyone lined up right. we saw how well that worked out with everyone being confused on almost every single pass play

mcmillan was bad, he was cut. jennings was bad, he was allowed to walk. burnett was just as bad as those two, and he stays only because we can't cut him

[pittstang5]

i think burnett is only still on this team because of his contract making it almost impossible to cut him right not. and i forget which beat writer it was (maybe mcginn), but he agreed by saying burnett would not be the second safety this year because he played himself out of a job

burnett was bad, he was just as bad as jennings last year and blew just as many assignments. plus, burnett was responsible for making the secondary calls and getting everyone lined up right. we saw how well that worked out with everyone being confused on almost every single pass play

mcmillan was bad, he was cut. jennings was bad, he was allowed to walk. burnett was just as bad as those two, and he stays only because we can't cut him

IMO, Burnett is a follower, not a leader. Burnett only played good when he had Collins next to him. Hell, Collins made Charlie Peprah look good. The sooner they get rid of Burnett, the better.

[Joemailman]

IMO, Burnett is a follower, not a leader. Burnett only played good when he had Collins next to him. Hell, Collins made Charlie Peprah look good. The sooner they get rid of Burnett, the better.

Perhaps you will prove to be right about Burnett not being a leader. However, the idea that Burnett only played well when he was next to Collins is a myth. Due to injuries, Burnett and Collins only played together for 4 games in 2010 and 2 games in 2011. When Burnett had his best season in 2012, Collins was no longer playing.

[pittstang5]

Perhaps you will prove to be right about Burnett not being a leader. However, the idea that Burnett only played well when he was next to Collins is a myth. Due to injuries, Burnett and Collins only played together for 4 games in 2010 and 2 games in 2011. When Burnett had his best season in 2012, Collins was no longer playing.

Then those six games were probably Burnett's best games.

[Guiness]

Perhaps you will prove to be right about Burnett not being a leader. However, the idea that Burnett only played well when he was next to Collins is a myth. Due to injuries, Burnett and Collins only played together for 4 games in 2010 and 2 games in 2011. When Burnett had his best season in 2012, Collins was no longer playing.

Ooh - good one!

[Smidgeon]

Ooh - good one!

The Patler Stamp!

When was the last time that was used?

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i think burnett is only still on this team because of his contract making it almost impossible to cut him right not. and i forget which beat writer it was (maybe mcginn), but he agreed by saying burnett would not be the second safety this year because he played himself out of a job

burnett was bad, he was just as bad as jennings last year and blew just as many assignments. plus, burnett was responsible for making the secondary calls and getting everyone lined up right. we saw how well that worked out with everyone being confused on almost every single pass play

mcmillan was bad, he was cut. jennings was bad, he was allowed to walk. burnett was just as bad as those two, and he stays only because we can't cut him

I have missed on these before, but I don't think the Packers are done with Burnett starting. He would have to be as bad in camp as last year to fall out of the lineup. He started in OTA, we'll see if he is still there in camp. If McGinn was right, you would think he wouldn't take #1 reps with other healthy bodies around. Don't see him as Alex Green yet.

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I have missed on these before, but I don't think the Packers are done with Burnett starting. He would have to be as bad in camp as last year to fall out of the lineup. He started in OTA, we'll see if he is still there in camp. If McGinn was right, you would think he wouldn't take #1 reps with other healthy bodies around. Don't see him as Alex Green yet.

well the only other option to starting burnett in ota's is to start richardson who has limited experience or hyde who has never played the position before

it doesn't matter who is starting in OTA's (look at the browns, is there any doubt that johnny football will be their starter this year? he's currently 3rd on the depth chart) but who's starting when the regular season get here. i would be a bit surprised if burnett was still the starter when regular season gets here, because i think he was every bit as bad as jennings and burnett last season,and if he is handed the starting job i would have to question whether its a case of a guy starting because his cap number says he's a starter

[KYPack]

i don't know if it is a strength yet. the guys are young, it might take time

the key at this point, IMO, is getting burnett out of the starting lineup. maybe its hyde, maybe its richardson, but one of those two taking over for burnett along side HaCD, could turn that unit from a complete joke into a solid unit

if burnett stays, i would say the unit would still be suspect

and of course it all depends on HaCD living up to his potential

HaHa and a recovered and "less green" Richardson will help.
Safety play was fugly last season. For interceptions by Safeties, '14 was the lowest total in team history - Zero safety picks.

That's recorded history, maybe some team was worse than that before '32, but since they started keeping track, 14 was our worst season by safety combos.

Burnett is a culprit, but he had his moments. 96 tackles 60 solos. No picks, no passes defended (that has to be in error, he had a spectacular PD vs the Bears when we needed one)

Burnett has some great physical talent. Maybe HaHa and or Richardson can be the other guy and improve this very sorry unit.

Morgan playing at a much higher level is a great asset for the D. He must get better reads and use that athletic talent to make plays. He also needs to be a leader, get these kids lined up and show 'em the way. I definitely think we need him on the field if we are to be a top flight back line.

[Joemailman]

HaHa and a recovered and "less green" Richardson will help.
Safety play was fugly last season. For interceptions by Safeties, '14 was the lowest total in team history - Zero safety picks.

That's recorded history, maybe some team was worse than that before '32, but since they started keeping track, 14 was our worst season by safety combos.

Burnett is a culprit, but he had his moments. 96 tackles 60 solos. No picks, no passes defended (that has to be in error, he had a spectacular PD vs the Bears when we needed one)

Burnett has some great physical talent. Maybe HaHa and or Richardson can be the other guy and improve this very sorry unit.

Morgan playing at a much higher level is a great asset for the D. He must get better reads and use that athletic talent to make plays. He also needs to be a leader, get these kids lined up and show 'em the way. I definitely think we need him on the field if we are to be a top flight back line.

I think it was M.D. Jennings who had 0 passes defended.

Jennings was a bad player. Burnett is, I think, a pretty good player who had a bad year. I think there's a pretty good chance he bounces back.

[KYPack]

I think it was M.D. Jennings who had 0 passes defended.

Jennings was a bad player. Burnett is, I think, a pretty good player who had a bad year. I think there's a pretty good chance he bounces back.

I looked at the wrong column.

Burnett had 6 passes defended.

ESPN stats had MD (Doc) Jennings with a pass defended.

Jerron McMillan also had one PD before they cut him.

None of em had a pick, I double checked (apologies to ARod).

The collapse of our two young safeties was one of the real disappointments of 13 season (not 14 like I posted).