Official 2014 Packers Training Camp Thread

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Shoulda gone to yoga.

[HarveyWallbangers]

Carl Bradford received little playing time in the Tennessee game. He wasn't overly impressive in the snaps he did get. A lot of people think he'd be better on the inside--including some scouts in the article.

http://www.jsonline.com/sports/packe...270847151.html

I just wonder if they are waiting too long to make the move. I felt the same way about Micah Hyde last year. I see his position being ILB in the NFL. I think long term he could compete with Lattimore or Barrington as a replacement for Hawk or Jones inside.

[vince]

Carl Bradford received little playing time in the Tennessee game. He wasn't overly impressive in the snaps he did get. A lot of people think he'd be better on the inside--including some scouts in the article.

http://www.jsonline.com/sports/packe...270847151.html

I just wonder if they are waiting too long to make the move. I felt the same way about Micah Hyde last year. I see his position being ILB in the NFL. I think long term he could compete with Lattimore or Barrington as a replacement for Hawk or Jones inside.

I don't think it's too surprising given his lack of experience standing up that going into the first preseason game he's behind the 2nd year guys who both saw a fair amount of action last year. He's got to bide his time, learn new techniques and earn opportunities.

I'm also not sure he has the range to cover on the inside. He's probably slower than Hodge was, who was a step slow inside. I think he'll be fine but it may take some time for the conversion. Eventually you'll be able to hide him out in the flat in coverage once in a while but you want that guy on the other side of the line of scrimmage chasing the QB more often than chasing guys in the slot downfield.

[HarveyWallbangers]

I'm also not sure he has the range to cover on the inside. He's probably slower than Hodge was, who was a step slow inside. I think he'll be fine but it may take some time for the conversion. Eventually you'll be able to hide him out in the flat in coverage once in a while but you want that guy on the other side of the line of scrimmage chasing the QB more often than chasing guys in the slot downfield.

He's a bit faster than Hodge. Bradford timed at 4.71 at the combine. Hodge timed at 4.76. Speed isn't the only thing. Desmond Bishop ran 4.81. Physically, outside of a bit faster 40 time his measurables are nearly identical to Sam Barrington. In converse, you could say Bradford doesn't have the necessary length to play OLB in a 3-4. 6'1" is decent size for a 3-4 ILB but short for a 3-4 OLB. It was a small sample size, but his 8 snaps vs. Tennessee were not good. He got no pressure in 1v1 situations. I've also read that he's struggled in pass rush drills. I think his best attributes are similar to what Bishop brought to the table.

[vince]

He's a bit faster than Hodge. Bradford timed at 4.71 at the combine. Hodge timed at 4.76. Speed isn't the only thing. Desmond Bishop ran 4.81. Physically, outside of a bit faster 40 time his measurables are nearly identical to Sam Barrington. In converse, you could say Bradford doesn't have the necessary length to play OLB in a 3-4. 6'1" is decent size for a 3-4 ILB but short for a 3-4 OLB. It was a small sample size, but his 8 snaps vs. Tennessee were not good. He got no pressure in 1v1 situations. I've also read that he's struggled in pass rush drills. I think his best attributes are similar to what Bishop brought to the table.

Well if he can't rush the passer then there's no loss in trying him out inside but I can see why they want him to start out outside. I thought I read about him winning a few one on ones and blowing up a few plays in camp. I'll go back and see if I can dig anything up. I think he has short arms though which may be a problem if he can't keep tackles from getting their hands on him.

[bobblehead]

He's a bit faster than Hodge. Bradford timed at 4.71 at the combine. Hodge timed at 4.76. Speed isn't the only thing. Desmond Bishop ran 4.81. Physically, outside of a bit faster 40 time his measurables are nearly identical to Sam Barrington. In converse, you could say Bradford doesn't have the necessary length to play OLB in a 3-4. 6'1" is decent size for a 3-4 ILB but short for a 3-4 OLB. It was a small sample size, but his 8 snaps vs. Tennessee were not good. He got no pressure in 1v1 situations. I've also read that he's struggled in pass rush drills. I think his best attributes are similar to what Bishop brought to the table.

The 40 is so overrated. Bishop was about .5 seconds faster diagnosing things than most ILB, so his effective 40 time was 4.31...dude flew.

[ThunderDan]

The 40 is so overrated. Bishop was about .5 seconds faster diagnosing things than most ILB, so his effective 40 time was 4.31...dude flew.

Not so fast. I don't think Bishop could diagnose anything. He just saw a gap and shot it. It didn't matter if that was his assignment or that was where the play was going. I don't know how many times he shot the wrong gap and let the other team gash a 20+ yard run.

It wasn't until his last season or two that he slowed down and actually played his assignment and then the Packers could afford to put him in for extended periods.

[pittstang5]

Carl Bradford received little playing time in the Tennessee game. He wasn't overly impressive in the snaps he did get. A lot of people think he'd be better on the inside--including some scouts in the article.

http://www.jsonline.com/sports/packe...270847151.html

I just wonder if they are waiting too long to make the move. I felt the same way about Micah Hyde last year. I see his position being ILB in the NFL. I think long term he could compete with Lattimore or Barrington as a replacement for Hawk or Jones inside.

When Bradford was drafted, I immediately thought he was drafted for the inside. All reports from the coaches stated he was going to be an OLB, which left me scratching my head. Maybe this will turn out to be like Brad Jones - start at OLB, then move to ILB.

[pbmax]

I think everyone thought he was targeted to inside given the scouting reports and team needs. But as I recall, the guys in charge saw him as a pass rusher.

[3irty1]

I think everyone thought he was targeted to inside given the scouting reports and team needs. But as I recall, the guys in charge saw him as a pass rusher.

I'd think you'd want to give anyone who was college passrusher with a 37.5" vertical a thorough evaluation rushing the passer before moving on to plan B.

[Patler]

I can't get too excited about how much or how little a rookie plays in the first preseason game, especially one who is changing positions and has a lot of vets to beat out.

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http://www.packersnews.com/story/spo...arks/13934233/

After watching the film, McCarthy said he was impressed by what he saw from a number of young players, including center Garth Gerhart, safety Ha Ha Clinton-Dix, inside linebackers Joe Thomas and Sam Barrington, and the first- and second-team secondary.

Those names in addition to praising Tretter and Sherrod.

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Nelson practiced, in limited fashion, today.

Packer Report ‏@PackerReport 43m
Out for #Packers were Adams, R. Neal, Lyerla, Joe Thomas, Barclay, Abbrederis, Guion and Worthy. Tanner Miller returned, had nice PBU.

Wes Hodkiewicz ‏@WesHod 37m
MM: I think Jeff Janis has made a play every day he's been out there. He looks good. Hopefully we can get him cleared for Saturday night

Wes Hodkiewicz ‏@WesHod 36m
MM on Adams: I'm told it's not a long term issue

[HarveyWallbangers]

Janis did have a drop. It's the first I remember. White had another drop after dropping two yesterday. He may be playing himself off the roster--especially with guys like Neal and Rolle making pushes at other positions.

[Brandon494]

Janis did have a drop. It's the first I remember. White had another drop after dropping two yesterday. He may be playing himself off the roster--especially with guys like Neal and Rolle making pushes at other positions.

White has never been good to begin with, I don't know what you ever saw in him. Janis did have a drop in the 2 minute drill I heard but that is the first negative comment I've heard about him. He also took snaps today at punt returner so hopefully we'll see him in the game later this week.

[pbmax]

White has never been good to begin with, I don't know what you ever saw in him. Janis did have a drop in the 2 minute drill I heard but that is the first negative comment I've heard about him. He also took snaps today at punt returner so hopefully we'll see him in the game later this week.

Now that is a punt returner I am excited about. Size and speed.

[HarveyWallbangers]

White has never been good to begin with, I don't know what you ever saw in him. Janis did have a drop in the 2 minute drill I heard but that is the first negative comment I've heard about him. He also took snaps today at punt returner so hopefully we'll see him in the game later this week.

White has some things to like about him. With some added strength and the loss of Abby (a slot guy) I thought he had the best chance of group fighting for a spot. But he's not good enough to overcome drops every practice. I wouldn't write him off, but I'm beginning to think they'll keep 5 (with Janis). Of the rest I think I like the potential of Kevin Dorsey the most. For a guy they just signed Sheppard didn't look half bad either.

[HarveyWallbangers]

About the time I got down on a guy I read an article like this (I missed it from earlier in the week). The writer speculates that the 5th spot will come down to Myles White vs. Kevin Dorsey. Of course, that was before White started dropping balls and Janis started making plays every day.

http://www.packersnews.com/story/spo...spot/13803211/

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Wednesday, August 13th, 2014

Jason Wilde ‏@jasonjwilde 1h
#Packers DNPs:
R. Neal - knee
Lyerla - knee
Thomas - knee
B. Jones - unknown (new)
Barclay - knee
Abbrederis - knee
Guion - hamstring

Tyler Dunne ‏@TyDunne 1h
Davante Adams (wrist) has returned to practice.

GPS TOLD HIM TO GET BACK OUT THERE

Tom Silverstein ‏@TomSilverstein 1h
Also back at practice is ILB Joe Thomas. RB Rajion Neal is still out.

HE HAD A LEG. NOW HIS LEG BELONGS TO WINSTON MOSS.

Tom Silverstein ‏@TomSilverstein 1h
Janis inside working with top offensive units while Dorsey and Harper are outside working with the scout team. That says something.

YES. UPCOMING INJURY REPORT.

Tom Silverstein ‏@TomSilverstein 1h
Lattimore working with Hawk inside with first defense. I would expect Barrington to get a shot there too.

JONES IS HURT YOU H8TERS.

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Tom Silverstein ‏@TomSilverstein 1h
Janis with a diving catch on an out route. When doesn't this guy make a great catch?

WHEN HE HAS SHINGLES

Jason Wilde ‏@jasonjwilde 1h
When Jeff Janis finds consistency, he's going to be a player. Full extension layout catch in 11-on-11 after two drops in individual drills.

BEST JOE MORGAN REFERENCE OF THE DAY

Wes Hodkiewicz ‏@WesHod 1h
Good concentration from Gillett. Hayward tips up pass in double coverage, catches the deflection

HHCD WAS IN COVERAGE ON THIS AS WELL. MUST BE NEW TO HAYWARD TO HAVE SAFETY HELP

Tom Silverstein ‏@TomSilverstein 1h
In first dime, Burnett and Clinton-Dix at safety, Tramon and Hyde in the slot, Shields and House outside.

WHAT!? HOW CAN YOU PLAY PASS D WITHOUT HAYWARD?

Tom Silverstein ‏@TomSilverstein 1h
Rodgers working with the second team O-line in red zone drill. Very unusual.

PACKERS PREPARE FOR FIRST 4 GAMES IN PRESEASON. AFTER INJURIES, THAT WILL BE THE STARTING O LINE IN GAME 3.

Wes Hodkiewicz ‏@WesHod 1h
Flutter ball from Rettig gets picked by Tramon on pass for Gillett

WONDER IF THIS WAS TIPPED LIKE IT WAS DURING TITAN GAME?

Tom Silverstein ‏@TomSilverstein 1h
Rodgers to Boykin down seam for a nice gain against No. 1 defense.

BOYKIN CAN BE THE TE

Pete Dougherty ‏@PeteDougherty 1h
Punt cover drill so Hyde personal protector, punt returners are Cobb, Williams, Janis

Tyler Dunne ‏@TyDunne 1h
On the scout team, Randall Cobb, Myles White, Tramon Williams, Jeff Janis are fielding punts.

SO TELL US WHO IS ON THE 1ST TEAM PUNT COVER YOU TWO!

Wes Hodkiewicz ‏@WesHod 1h
Morgan Burnett on first kickoff coverage

ONLY 10 MORE NAMES TO GO. IN RELATED NEWS, WHAT?!