Official 2014 Packers Training Camp Thread

[MadScientist]

I understand that, but I look at it this way. He was not drafted by any of the 31 other teams...what has he done to date to make another team want to suddenly use a roster spot for?

He was passed on due to character issues, so if some other team felt they were sorted out and his talent was worth a flier pay for a year of IR, they could have picked him up. Clearly none did, but the question remains as to why he was exposed to wavers at this time.

If that is so, perhaps what I read about reaching a settlement being difficult is accurate. A player doesn't endear himself to NFL GM's by refusing to settle in that situation though.

True, there was another Packer in 2010 who wouldn't settle and then complained that the Packers didn't bother giving him a ring after hanging about on IR the whole year. Never heard from him again after that.

[MadScientist]

Not so. Other players on other teams have been stashed directly to IR already.

Like Colt, those players passed through waivers. I'm pretty sure you can put a player directly on IR as part of the cut down to 65, not just after that point. Even if they could reach a settlement for say 8 weeks, with the 6 week delay after that, at best he could practice the last 2 weeks plus playoffs on the PS, and would be somewhat more likely to end up on some other team's PS.

[Smidgeon]

Like Colt, those players passed through waivers. I'm pretty sure you can put a player directly on IR as part of the cut down to 65, not just after that point. Even if they could reach a settlement for say 8 weeks, with the 6 week delay after that, at best he could practice the last 2 weeks plus playoffs on the PS, and would be somewhat more likely to end up on some other team's PS.

Nope. They don't all pass through waivers. Now, I've seen the vested veteran rules, and they clearly make sense. But the Jets rookie has been reported specifically as not going through waivers before heading to IR. I don't know what to make of it.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...jured-reserve/

[Patler]

Nope. They don't all pass through waivers. Now, I've seen the vested veteran rules, and they clearly make sense. But the Jets rookie has been reported specifically as not going through waivers before heading to IR. I don't know what to make of it.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...jured-reserve/

OK, I'm officially confused now if the article is correct.
It was reported immediately by some that the Packers wanted to put Lyerla on IR, but that he had to clear waivers first.
I don't understand why they have delayed putting Barclay and Abbredaris on IR, two players they clearly do not want to lose in waivers. Both are headed to surgery if not already operated on. Why the delay?

[Patler]

If I recall correctly, you can IR a player outright only after cutting down to 65.

Not so. Other players on other teams have been stashed directly to IR already.

I'm not sure at all on this, but I think it depends on whether the player is a vested veteran (4 years) or not. Vested veterans can be put on IR at anytime, I think, but the nonvested players have to go through waivers at least early in camp. I think that is why Barclay is still on the roster. If they waived him now, someone would likely grab him. They will hold him on the roster until they can move him directly to IR.

I don't think they wanted to lose Lyerla, but they were willing to take the chance. It becomes a numbers game at this point with the first cutdown coming up. No body is looking to add long-shot development guys at this time of the year, so the chance of anyone claiming Lyerla was small. No body else wanted him when he was healthy, why would they claim him now?

[Joemailman]

Bostick has slight fracture of fibula. Likely to miss opener. http://www.jsonline.com/sports/packe...272256301.html

[HarveyWallbangers]

Thornton isn't going anywhere. I think he's shown more in the games than the group think amongst the writers.

[3irty1]

Thornton isn't going anywhere. I think he's shown more in the games than the group think amongst the writers.

Agree completely. He hasn't been the player they are writing about.

[HarveyWallbangers]

Thornton isn't going anywhere. I think he's shown more in the games than the group think amongst the writers.

After watching him closely in this last game, Thornton was pretty awful. I thought Boyd played well. Pennel was solid, but had some shaky moments. Nobody else stood out among the young DTs.

[Fritz]

Does this mean they keep seven, or is Guion's spot in jeopardy?

[3irty1]

Does this mean they keep seven, or is Guion's spot in jeopardy?

Guion might be staying on the NFI list until week 6. If the cavalry is needed on the DL by then he can be activated or else he can be cut or stashed on the IR.

[HarveyWallbangers]

Guion might be staying on the NFI list until week 6. If the cavalry is needed on the DL by then he can be activated or else he can be cut or stashed on the IR.

I think that's the plan, as well. At this point, might as well not activate him off the PUP list.

[KYPack]

I think that's the plan, as well. At this point, might as well not activate him off the PUP list.

This was pointed out in the roster thread. They might put Guion on that limited IR. You can activate one player that you put on that list after 8 ball games. That might be a good move, altho I'd think he'd be ready a lot sooner than that.

There's also the financial consideration, he'd be paid his contract salary while on IR.

[Pugger]

Guion might be staying on the NFI list until week 6. If the cavalry is needed on the DL by then he can be activated or else he can be cut or stashed on the IR.

He is practicing today so maybe his presence will soften the blow of losing Raji.

[smuggler]

They can conserve the short term IR spot for another player by simply keeping Guion ad stated above.

[HarveyWallbangers]

They can conserve the short term IR spot for another player by simply keeping Guion ad stated above.

Plus, they aren't going to put a JAG on that list. They'll save that for a star player.

[Joemailman]

Tyler Dunne
@TyDunne
Casey Hayward back for the Packers. Missed Friday's game.

Tyler Dunne
@TyDunne
JC Tretter not here. Rookie Corey Linsley replacing him with the one's. Tretter was banged up early vs Oak, but kept playing.

Tyler Dunne
@TyDunne
Micah Hyde with a tough break-up in back of the end zone on a pass to Ryan Taylor. Looks like he'll be the safety with Burnett still.

Tyler Dunne
@TyDunne
Brandon Bostick throwing the ball around with Quarless. He's off the crutches.

Aug. 24, 2014

[KYPack]

Plus, they aren't going to put a JAG on that list. They'll save that for a star player.

Might be Tretter's home, eh?

[Joemailman]

Tyler Dunne
@TyDunne
First cuts announced: CB Antonio Dennard, WR Chris Harper, LB Korey Jones, FB Ina Liaina, QB Chase Rettig and WR Gerrard Sheppard.

[Guiness]

Tyler Dunne
@TyDunne
First cuts announced: CB Antonio Dennard, WR Chris Harper, LB Korey Jones, FB Ina Liaina, QB Chase Rettig and WR Gerrard Sheppard.

Harper the first casualty among the WRs - thought I remembered some here having high hopes for him. Looks like that's not going to happen, the former 4th round pick can't seem to put it together. I wonder if he gets another chance somewhere.