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    Quote Originally Posted by HarveyWallbangers View Post
    Thornton isn't going anywhere. I think he's shown more in the games than the group think amongst the writers.
    Agree completely. He hasn't been the player they are writing about.
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    Does this mean they keep seven, or is Guion's spot in jeopardy?
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    Quote Originally Posted by smuggler View Post
    If I recall correctly, you can IR a player outright only after cutting down to 65.
    Not so. Other players on other teams have been stashed directly to IR already.
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    Quote Originally Posted by texaspackerbacker View Post
    I agree, but it's the lesser of the two evils - the other being the risk of losing him if we try to stash him on the practice squad and somebody else grabs him.
    I understand that, but I look at it this way. He was not drafted by any of the 31 other teams...what has he done to date to make another team want to suddenly use a roster spot for?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Smidgeon View Post
    Not so. Other players on other teams have been stashed directly to IR already.
    If that is so, perhaps what I read about reaching a settlement being difficult is accurate. A player doesn't endear himself to NFL GM's by refusing to settle in that situation though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Smidgeon View Post
    Not so. Other players on other teams have been stashed directly to IR already.
    Like Colt, those players passed through waivers. I'm pretty sure you can put a player directly on IR as part of the cut down to 65, not just after that point. Even if they could reach a settlement for say 8 weeks, with the 6 week delay after that, at best he could practice the last 2 weeks plus playoffs on the PS, and would be somewhat more likely to end up on some other team's PS.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bobblehead View Post
    I understand that, but I look at it this way. He was not drafted by any of the 31 other teams...what has he done to date to make another team want to suddenly use a roster spot for?
    He was passed on due to character issues, so if some other team felt they were sorted out and his talent was worth a flier pay for a year of IR, they could have picked him up. Clearly none did, but the question remains as to why he was exposed to wavers at this time.

    Quote Originally Posted by bobblehead View Post
    If that is so, perhaps what I read about reaching a settlement being difficult is accurate. A player doesn't endear himself to NFL GM's by refusing to settle in that situation though.
    True, there was another Packer in 2010 who wouldn't settle and then complained that the Packers didn't bother giving him a ring after hanging about on IR the whole year. Never heard from him again after that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by smuggler View Post
    If I recall correctly, you can IR a player outright only after cutting down to 65.
    Quote Originally Posted by Smidgeon View Post
    Not so. Other players on other teams have been stashed directly to IR already.
    I'm not sure at all on this, but I think it depends on whether the player is a vested veteran (4 years) or not. Vested veterans can be put on IR at anytime, I think, but the nonvested players have to go through waivers at least early in camp. I think that is why Barclay is still on the roster. If they waived him now, someone would likely grab him. They will hold him on the roster until they can move him directly to IR.

    I don't think they wanted to lose Lyerla, but they were willing to take the chance. It becomes a numbers game at this point with the first cutdown coming up. No body is looking to add long-shot development guys at this time of the year, so the chance of anyone claiming Lyerla was small. No body else wanted him when he was healthy, why would they claim him now?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fritz View Post
    Does this mean they keep seven, or is Guion's spot in jeopardy?
    Guion might be staying on the NFI list until week 6. If the cavalry is needed on the DL by then he can be activated or else he can be cut or stashed on the IR.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 3irty1 View Post
    Guion might be staying on the NFI list until week 6. If the cavalry is needed on the DL by then he can be activated or else he can be cut or stashed on the IR.
    I think that's the plan, as well. At this point, might as well not activate him off the PUP list.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HarveyWallbangers View Post
    I think that's the plan, as well. At this point, might as well not activate him off the PUP list.
    This was pointed out in the roster thread. They might put Guion on that limited IR. You can activate one player that you put on that list after 8 ball games. That might be a good move, altho I'd think he'd be ready a lot sooner than that.

    There's also the financial consideration, he'd be paid his contract salary while on IR.

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    They can conserve the short term IR spot for another player by simply keeping Guion ad stated above.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smuggler View Post
    They can conserve the short term IR spot for another player by simply keeping Guion ad stated above.
    Plus, they aren't going to put a JAG on that list. They'll save that for a star player.
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    First cuts announced: CB Antonio Dennard, WR Chris Harper, LB Korey Jones, FB Ina Liaina, QB Chase Rettig and WR Gerrard Sheppard.
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    Casey Hayward back for the Packers. Missed Friday's game.

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    JC Tretter not here. Rookie Corey Linsley replacing him with the one's. Tretter was banged up early vs Oak, but kept playing.

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    Micah Hyde with a tough break-up in back of the end zone on a pass to Ryan Taylor. Looks like he'll be the safety with Burnett still.

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    Brandon Bostick throwing the ball around with Quarless. He's off the crutches.

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    I just heard on ESPN Radio (John Clayton reporting) that JC Tretter has a significant knee injury and will be out a while. Not sure what that means, but paging Corey Linsley. Curious to know if Garth (don't call me Toby) Gerhart was taking any reps at Center in practice.

    Also, any news on Brad Jones injury?
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    With Tretter out, Linsley has gotten the first rep at center. But #Packers also have had Sitton at center and Lane Taylor at left guard.

    I almost wonder if this is a typo or if it was Sitton not Lang getting reps.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Carolina_Packer View Post
    I just heard on ESPN Radio (John Clayton reporting) that JC Tretter has a significant knee injury and will be out a while. Not sure what that means, but paging Corey Linsley. Curious to know if Garth (don't call me Toby) Gerhart was taking any reps at Center in practice.

    Also, any news on Brad Jones injury?
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    McCarthy on injuries: Jones (quad) not ready for KC; Raji (biceps) surgery; Tretter (significant knee injury) will be multiple weeks.

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    McCarthy not worried "today" for Brad Jones' availability vs. Seattle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pbmax View Post
    Jason Wilde ‏@jasonjwilde 58m
    With Tretter out, Linsley has gotten the first rep at center. But #Packers also have had Sitton at center and Lane Taylor at left guard.

    I almost wonder if this is a typo or if it was Sitton not Lang getting reps.
    MM:

    On Lang/Sitton at guard... You have to always train three centers. That will never change. Since 2006, the guards have always been trained at center. You do so much shotgun. Playing in the stadium we'll be playing in Week 1; communication that goes on, guards a big part of that.
    Hard to say, but last year when EDS had to come out of a couple games, Lang played Center.
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    McCarthy: I thought Derek (Sherrod) got better. He took another step. I like the way he graded out. Some of our young guys improved.

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    McCarthy: Letroy Guion is getting better. He's getting close.

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    McCarthy says Raji is not a candidate for IR with the designation to return. Will have surgery soon, he says. #Packers

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    Guards always trained to play center, MM said. Both took reps at practice.

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    McCarthy not worried "today" for Brad Jones' availability vs. Seattle.
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