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    NT is Raji's position. I think it is a big loss, at least Raji had potential to return to form at NT.

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    I have no doubt its a full tear. That's just how this team roles. As much as Raji has pissed me off, there is no depth behind him. Pennel has looked good, but he's a rookie. Guoin can't get on the field.

    My biggest concern has been the d-line this TC. Depth is gonna be tested. Not good, imo. Not good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Harlan Huckleby View Post
    NT is Raji's position. I think it is a big loss, at least Raji had potential to return to form at NT.
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    And he is done.

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    The results are in and they are not good. #Packers NT BJ Raji is out for the season with a torn bicep, source says. This was the fear
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    So, what do you think they will do to address the roster spot? Do you think they'll go with the depth they have at DL or perhaps look to the last roster cut-down to add to depth? Eliot Wolf, time to earn your money! Find Ted a good fit, please.
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    GBPG's WesHod has confirmed out for season.

    Tyler Dunne ‏@TyDunne 4m
    Still, wouldn't expect a ton of panic out of Packers. Use nickel a ton. They have Boyd/Guion/Pennel, and liked Guion a lot.

    Tyler Dunne ‏@TyDunne 5m
    Here's what Ryan Pickett said right before training camp about wanting to play, and in GB ... http://www.jsonline.com/sports/packe...265637431.html
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    Wow, not good to lose your starting NT.
    This likely means Pennel makes the roster, and Guion too. I'd think they will try to play Guion quite a bit in the last preseason game. I think going with Boyd/Pennel as your duo at NT week 1 vs. Seattle is risky, especially with what they have at ILB.

    I think they will kick the tires on Pickett and wouldn't be against bringing him back on the cheap if Guion's hurt/no good. Pickett gives them size and some run stopping but zero pass rush. Not sure about scouts bringing some new face in unless it's a surprise veteran cut who might still have something in the tank. I don't see it happening.

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    Wes Hodkiewicz ‏@WesHod 56m
    Research with @RobDemovsky this week revealed #Packers played Okie in 25.2 percent of their total snaps last season. Nickel is the new base

    Tyler Dunne ‏@TyDunne 6m
    Source tells @TomSilverstein that Ryan Pickett and Johnny Jolly are not in the #Packers plans, in light of Raji's season-ending injury.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pbmax View Post
    Wes Hodkiewicz ‏@WesHod 56m
    Research with @RobDemovsky this week revealed #Packers played Okie in 25.2 percent of their total snaps last season. Nickel is the new base
    isn't there someone on this site that makes this same argument?

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    Quote Originally Posted by red View Post
    isn't there someone on this site that makes this same argument?
    I don't think anybody's argued against the fact that the 2-4-5 is really our base defense. It's just that some don't have a problem with it--especially in today's NFL. Also, the Packers aren't the only team like this. Indianapolis, Philadelphia, and San Diego also play the 2-4-5 as their base defense. San Fran will likely play a 2-4-5 Big Nickel (where the extra DB is S Jimmie Ward and not a corner). Many teams 3-4 teams play a lot of 2-4-5.
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    It sure looked likeRaji was getting pushed around and run right past in this preseason at NT, the same as he did last year wherever he played. This is the ultimate addition by subtraction. The Packers D will be BETTER without Raji. And don't even think about bringing in Pickett! Also, I really don't think we need Guion - assuming he's just another big clod.

    Boyd and Pennel have both played a lot better than Raji. Going with them at NT in addition to plenty of the no NT packages will make the Packers better - a lot better as a result of this injury.

    Now what about Brad Jones? Somebody said he had a knee injury. Could we have even more addition by subtraction?

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    Quote Originally Posted by texaspackerbacker View Post

    Boyd and Pennel have both played a lot better than Raji. Going with them at NT in addition to plenty of the no NT packages will make the Packers better - a lot better as a result of this injury.
    I will pose the same question I asked Harlan last week. Exactly what games are you watching?
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    Quote Originally Posted by bobblehead View Post
    I will pose the same question I asked Harlan last week. Exactly what games are you watching?
    Back at you - I'll ask you the same. Instead of getting push, Raji got pushed - and it ain't a thing of the past. The snaps he got just last night he got pushed around/pushed back/and run right past. And when Boyd and Pennel were at NT, the same stuff didn't happen.

    MARK MY WORDS! Save this post to rub it in if I'm proven wrong. the Packers D will be MUCH better off without Raji in there - assuming they don't pull some shit like bringing back Pickett. I've been campaigning for this the whole off-season - long before they made it obvious they were going that direction - to go to a smaller more mobile better tackling D Line. Raji was the last remnant of the old shit.

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    Well this sucks, I'd argue nose tackle had the least depth on the team
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    No major loss.

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    I would not have been upset if he had signed with a different team, so I'm not overly concerned that he is out for the year. only difference is that they now have little time and fewer options fpr working in a replacement

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    The Packers won the Super Bowl with the 2-4-5 as their base defense. This is not something new.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HarveyWallbangers View Post
    I don't think anybody's argued against the fact that the 2-4-5 is really our base defense. It's just that some don't have a problem with it--especially in today's NFL. Also, the Packers aren't the only team like this. Indianapolis, Philadelphia, and San Diego also play the 2-4-5 as their base defense. San Fran will likely play a 2-4-5 Big Nickel (where the extra DB is S Jimmie Ward and not a corner). Many teams 3-4 teams play a lot of 2-4-5.
    Quote Originally Posted by Joemailman View Post
    The Packers won the Super Bowl with the 2-4-5 as their base defense. This is not something new.
    And they don't have much of a beef with finishing 31st in defense, or 25th in defense, or being humiliated in the playoffs - so much so, that everyone anoited Kapnerfucker a HOF'er.

    They began running it more than I was comfortable with in our SB year - we got away with it b/c we had vastly superior talent on that side of the ball, and teams didn't have 4 consecutive years of tape to pick it apart.

    We lost Jenkins, Collins, Woodson, Bishop; Pickett got older, they changed Raji's role, they ran less and less real base, etc... add it up, and we simply haven't had the players to run it - on the contrary, the players TT brought in were much better suited to running a 3-3.

    Hence, Capers is putting 3-3 square pegs into 2-4 round holes - the results have been dismal, and obviously so.

    Now this year, they dumped Pickett and Jolly, and said they were going to go to a penetrating 3-4 instead of the traditional run-stuffing, 2-gapping 3-4 of your grandfather...

    Fine, okay... there's more than 1 way to skin a cat - but, if they don't manage snap counts, and get a set rotation that maximized players strengths, then we'll be right back here next year arguing about how to fix the mess that is, and has been, our defense.
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    This really is only an impact due to depth IMO. Raji just does not have the desire to be a consistent performer. He is certainly replaceable...the timing is what really hurts the Packers.
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