View Poll Results: Who makes the 53?

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  • Flynn

    3 9.68%
  • Tolzien

    8 25.81%
  • Tolzien #2, Flynn #3

    6 19.35%
  • Flynn #2, Tolzien #3

    14 45.16%
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    Quote Originally Posted by Harlan Huckleby View Post
    Yet you lack the decisiveness to cut Tolzien outright. You want to use a roster spot for him "for the future"? Why hang on to a guy who is not very impressive? Surely there are other not-very-impressive QBs that could be brought in later. TT usually prefers to go with 2 QBs.

    I'm curious, people who are voting for a 3 QB roster this year, does that mean you think GB should keep 3 QBs every year?







    Not indecisive at all, I just think it's extremely stupid to go into the season with only one decent back up QB. Especially for the Packers who seem to always mysteriously be bitten by the injury bug.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rutnstrut View Post
    Not indecisive at all, I just think it's extremely stupid to go into the season with only one decent back up QB. Especially for the Packers who seem to always mysteriously be bitten by the injury bug.
    OK, so then you vote for the Packers keeping 3 QBs every season that 3 respectables can be rounded-up?

    That might be overly risk averse, wasteful. Most GMs, include TT, lean to 2

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    Quote Originally Posted by Harlan Huckleby View Post
    OK, so then you vote for the Packers keeping 3 QBs every season that 3 respectables can be rounded-up?

    That might be overly risk averse, wasteful. Most GMs, include TT, lean to 2
    When it comes to the Packers and injuries I don't think they can be compared to what the rest of the league is doing. They are the exception, in a bad way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rutnstrut View Post
    I've seen how little upside Tolzien has when I watched every Badger game he played in. Whether seeing him in person or on tv, it was not very impressive. Flynn gets it done, it may not be pretty but he gets it done.
    That's what I keep coming back to. Even last night, Flynn missed some throws he should have made, yet he had an 86 yard drive for one TD and a 94 yard drive for another. Sure, the second one was helped tremendously by penalties, but he took advantage of them. It has sort of been the story of his career. He's never been good enough, yet he makes it work. To me, he is kind of the ideal backup, one that could be around a long time, until Rodgers' heir-apparent is found.

    I guess I just don't have the same confidence in Tolzien that I have in Flynn, and since the hope is neither will ever become the starter, I like the reliability of Flynn to pick up the pieces if it becomes necessary.

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    Am I the only one who thinks there are throws that Flynn just simply can't make any more? I don't know the whole story on the elbow injury, but seems to me he has missed on just about every throw over 20 yards in the air and rarely shows any "zip" on shorter throws. I honestly don't think he can make either of the throws that were Tolzien's TDs last night.

    That said, I voted keep both. At least for a week. Drop either and I believe the Seahawks pick them up and pump them for our offensive calls.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jdrats View Post
    Am I the only one who thinks there are throws that Flynn just simply can't make any more? I don't know the whole story on the elbow injury, but seems to me he has missed on just about every throw over 20 yards in the air and rarely shows any "zip" on shorter throws. I honestly don't think he can make either of the throws that were Tolzien's TDs last night.

    That said, I voted keep both. At least for a week. Drop either and I believe the Seahawks pick them up and pump them for our offensive calls.
    I'm not sure Flynn ever did make those throws with any consistency. His arm strength has always been a question mark.

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    Its interesting that the poll is between Flynn over Tolzien and Tolzien over nothing. The most conservative and most risky choice.
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    If you don't think Tolzien is good enough to be the heir to Rodgers, then cut his sorry ass.

    How's that for decisive, blue dog?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fritz View Post
    If you don't think Tolzien is good enough to be the heir to Rodgers, then cut his sorry ass.

    How's that for decisive, blue dog?
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    Quote Originally Posted by 3irty1 View Post
    Its interesting that the poll is between Flynn over Tolzien and Tolzien over nothing. The most conservative and most risky choice.
    Tolzien may be risky relative to Flynn, but if you look around the league, the #2's are a lot of #2. Tolzien is not risky by league standards.

    Keeping Flynn>Tolzien is conservative in that you avoid making choices that could fail. But is it really conservative to spend extravagantly on QB resources? That does not fit-in with the Thompson style of GMing. He believes in cutting players a year early rather than a year late. Out with the old, in with the upcoming.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Harlan Huckleby View Post
    Tolzien may be risky relative to Flynn, but if you look around the league, the #2's are a lot of #2. Tolzien is not risky by league standards.

    Keeping Flynn>Tolzien is conservative in that you avoid making choices that could fail. But is it really conservative to spend extravagantly on QB resources? That does not fit-in with the Thompson style of GMing. He believes in cutting players a year early rather than a year late. Out with the old, in with the upcoming.
    If Rodgers goes down, this is a .500 ball club with either guy. Does it really matter this much or are we just talking to have something to talk about?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zool View Post
    Does it really matter this much or are we just talking to have something to talk about?
    the latter.

    but bug out, party pooper.

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    I guess I should have said the highest and lowest risk:reward choices. Most people who want Flynn as the backup also want a backup backup. Most people who like Tolzien feel comfortable putting all their eggs in that basket.

    I'm sure TT will cut both and rock Cobb as the backup.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 3irty1 View Post
    I guess I should have said the highest and lowest risk:reward choices. Most people who want Flynn as the backup also want a backup backup. Most people who like Tolzien feel comfortable putting all their eggs in that basket.

    I'm sure TT will cut both and rock Cobb as the backup.
    I am in the boat of Tolzien is ahead of Flynn but after last year I am not against rolling with 3 QBs on the roster.
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    I still don't think we'll keep both Matt and Scott. I suspect we don't have that luxury. I too like Tolzien's upside but it wouldn't surprise me in the least if they go with Flynn. I just hope if they do they don't come to regret it. Tolzien isn't going to last too long as a FA.

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