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    We have a lot more depth on defense. Specifically at safety, but also CB and OLB.

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    Cutler has never won anything and I predicted when they first signed him that he never would. I just don't think the guy is a winner. And the Bears suck....

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    No, they don't. A defense that is still aging in key spots and Cutler is still Cutler.

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    They Bears were a 4th and 8 away from beating us twice last year, and I think they're better this year.

    I still think we win the division, but it's certainly not a given - Detroit and Minnesota will be better this year too.

    The NFC North has become a very competetive division.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wist43 View Post
    They Bears were a 4th and 8 away from beating us twice last year, and I think they're better this year.

    I still think we win the division, but it's certainly not a given - Detroit and Minnesota will be better this year too.

    The NFC North has become a very competetive division.
    They also couldn't seize the division from a team starting 3 different QBs after Rodgers that ultimately finished 8-7-1.

    So beating us and making the playoffs wouldn't exactly be an achievement considering both the Bears and the Lions had all the time in the world to take control and failed to do so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Striker View Post
    They also couldn't seize the division from a team starting 3 different QBs after Rodgers that ultimately finished 8-7-1.

    So beating us and making the playoffs wouldn't exactly be an achievement considering both the Bears and the Lions had all the time in the world to take control and failed to do so.
    The bottom line:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Striker View Post
    They also couldn't seize the division from a team starting 3 different QBs after Rodgers that ultimately finished 8-7-1.

    So beating us and making the playoffs wouldn't exactly be an achievement considering both the Bears and the Lions had all the time in the world to take control and failed to do so.
    They're a flawed team to be sure - but so are the Packers.

    Detroit beat us senseless in the T-giving day game... I don't care if we were minus our QB or not - there's no way to rationalize a beating like that. Our team is every bit as flawed as the Lions or Bears.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wist43 View Post
    They're a flawed team to be sure - but so are the Packers.

    Detroit beat us senseless in the T-giving day game... I don't care if we were minus our QB or not - there's no way to rationalize a beating like that. Our team is every bit as flawed as the Lions or Bears.
    When it's bad play from Flynn, yeah, it's pretty easy to rationalize. The game at least was close until the battle of attrition finally started sliding the Lions way.

    The Packers drives went:

    Punt, FG (after an out out of bounds KO), punt, punt, punt, punt, turnover, turnover, punt, punt, turnover. I'm pretty sure they could manage a little better than that under Rodgers.

    Like every team in the NFL, the Packers do have flaws. But I think they have decidedly fewer than the rest of the division, and they have the QB to make up for them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Striker View Post
    When it's bad play from Flynn, yeah, it's pretty easy to rationalize. The game at least was close until the battle of attrition finally started sliding the Lions way.

    The Packers drives went:

    Punt, FG (after an out out of bounds KO), punt, punt, punt, punt, turnover, turnover, punt, punt, turnover. I'm pretty sure they could manage a little better than that under Rodgers.

    Like every team in the NFL, the Packers do have flaws. But I think they have decidedly fewer than the rest of the division, and they have the QB to make up for them.


    Nice post. When folks wax poetic about Flynn all I can think about is how dreadful he was in this game. Our much aligned defense got 3 turnovers in the first half of that game that Flynn couldn't do shit with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Striker View Post
    When it's bad play from Flynn, yeah, it's pretty easy to rationalize. The game at least was close until the battle of attrition finally started sliding the Lions way.

    The Packers drives went:

    Punt, FG (after an out out of bounds KO), punt, punt, punt, punt, turnover, turnover, punt, punt, turnover. I'm pretty sure they could manage a little better than that under Rodgers.

    Like every team in the NFL, the Packers do have flaws. But I think they have decidedly fewer than the rest of the division, and they have the QB to make up for them.
    I agree that we have fewer flaws than anyone else in the division, and that we should win the division... but we are not an invincible juggernaut.

    Our defense has been a disaster for 3 years running - one of the worst in the league... as "flaws" go, that's a pretty glaring one.

    Did TT do enough to right the ship on that side of the ball?? We'll see... but in no way do I think we whistle a happy tune all the way to the division championship.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Striker View Post
    When it's bad play from Flynn, yeah, it's pretty easy to rationalize. The game at least was close until the battle of attrition finally started sliding the Lions way.

    The Packers drives went:

    Punt, FG (after an out out of bounds KO), punt, punt, punt, punt, turnover, turnover, punt, punt, turnover. I'm pretty sure they could manage a little better than that under Rodgers.

    Like every team in the NFL, the Packers do have flaws. But I think they have decidedly fewer than the rest of the division, and they have the QB to make up for them.
    Agree.
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    To me, it's all about injuries and the performance of this re-tooled defense. If this team stays relatively injury free (especially at key positions), and if the defense plays to its apparent talent level (assuming the "little" guys up front perform), this team can go all the way.

    If, though, this is a typical-lately Packer defense, it'll be another hollow NFC North title and an early exit in the playoffs.

    So tonight I am looking for some sign that this defense can step it up. Of course, they played lights-out early last season, but that was one of those fart-in-the-wind deals.

    Except if it were one of my farts in the wind, it would stay....and stay.....and stay.
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    NO !

    Surprisingly I believe that Jay Cutler is on some kind of record pace this season.

    I need to check that.

    Otherwise the Bears are a very sick team. A very sick team on 'D'.
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    Bears OC Aaron Kromer was the source of Ian Rapaport's story about Cutler killing the Bear offense by not checking out of bad run plays. He denies he was the one who said the franchise has buyer's remorse.

    He apologized to the team today.

    http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports...211-story.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by pbmax View Post
    Bears OC Aaron Kromer was the source of Ian Rapaport's story about Cutler killing the Bear offense by not checking out of bad run plays. He denies he was the one who said the franchise has buyer's remorse.

    He apologized to the team today.

    http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports...211-story.html
    OHHH.

    I thought OC meant offensive center, not offensive coordinator.

    That goof is so fired.

    Now Trestman has a scapegoat, if this will help him a bit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pbmax View Post
    Bears OC Aaron Kromer was the source of Ian Rapaport's story about Cutler killing the Bear offense by not checking out of bad run plays. He denies he was the one who said the franchise has buyer's remorse.

    He apologized to the team today.

    http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports...211-story.html
    There's actually a way to work around Cuttler for this. All they have to do is get the play in and line up very quickly (more than 15 seconds remaining). If the formation is not favorable, the OC can yell over the mike - "Hey dumbass, check to this play".

    Quote Originally Posted by KYPack View Post
    OHHH.

    I thought OC meant offensive center, not offensive coordinator.

    That goof is so fired.

    Now Trestman has a scapegoat, if this will help him a bit.
    Good news for the Packers if they buy into the scapgoat idea and keep Trestman.
    Fire Murphy, Gute, MLF, Barry, Senavich, etc!

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    Quote Originally Posted by pbmax View Post
    Bears OC Aaron "Stormy" Kromer was the source of Ian Rapaport's story about Cutler killing the Bear offense by not checking out of bad run plays. He denies he was the one who said the franchise has buyer's remorse.

    He apologized to the team today.

    http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports...211-story.html
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    The Bears really are a mess. Saw this in the article, which states why I was so glad when the Bears signed Cutler to a big contract:

    Cutler leads the NFL with 21 turnovers and the offense has been mired in a season-long slump, unable to reach 30 points in a game.

    Cutler has a history of going through coaches in quick order. In his sixth season since coming over in a 2009 trade with the Broncos, he is on his second head coach, fourth offensive coordinator and fourth quarterbacks coach.
    Even if Trestman manages to keep his job, it is difficult to see anyway that Kromer can keep his and have the faith and trust of his players.

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