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    Quote Originally Posted by red View Post
    Pft has it figured out. Cutlers money in 2015 is guaranteed for Injury only it looks like. So by benching him, they are eliminating the risk of him getting Injured. Their hope is to trade him in the offseason.

    Good luck with that

    And it is a bad thing that the bears have figured out cutler sucks
    No team should have to put up with that much misery.
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    Quote Originally Posted by red View Post
    And it is a bad thing that the bears have figured out cutler sucks
    Not really. The Bears really have never had a true franchise QB in the entire history of their existence. Sid Luckman? Is that really the BEST they've got? What makes you think they are going to find one now? Cutler is mediocre...but at least 10 teams in the NFL have it far worse at QB. The chances of the Bears going further south at QB are probably higher than them finding a gem.
    It's such a GOOD feeling...13 TIME WORLD CHAMPIONS!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by red View Post
    Pft has it figured out. Cutlers money in 2015 is guaranteed for Injury only it looks like. So by benching him, they are eliminating the risk of him getting Injured. Their hope is to trade him in the offseason.

    Good luck with that

    And it is a bad thing that the bears have figured out cutler sucks
    And so has the rest of the league. Seriously, what other team is gonna want that guy at that salary?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pugger View Post
    And so has the rest of the league. Seriously, what other team is gonna want that guy at that salary?
    He's untradeable. His next contract and where is going to be real intriguing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cheesehead Craig View Post
    He's untradeable. His next contract and where is going to be real intriguing.
    There's a reasonable chance it will look like Jeff George's new contract following his 2001 season with the Redskins.
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    The Bears can end up looking very foolish if they trade or cut him this off season. The questions about Jay Cutler today are no different than the questions about him during the off season. The Bears should have had the guts to let him go last off season. They are learning a very expensive lesson. Alternatively, they would have been better off using the franchise tag on him if they felt the need to give him a second year with Trestman.

    If I understand the "Spotrac" breakdown correctly, the total guarantee as of March 2014 was $38M, and an additional $10M guarantees in 3/2015. If they dump him before March, they are still on the hook next year for a $19.5M cap hit after a cap charge this year of $18.5M.

    $38M for one year of service.

    Trade? Does anyone want him at roughly $16-21M/year? How much will they give to take on that obligation? Does a 32 year old 10 year vet still have "upside" to hope for????

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    Quote Originally Posted by Patler View Post
    The Bears can end up looking very foolish if they trade or cut him this off season. The questions about Jay Cutler today are no different than the questions about him during the off season. The Bears should have had the guts to let him go last off season. They are learning a very expensive lesson. Alternatively, they would have been better off using the franchise tag on him if they felt the need to give him a second year with Trestman.

    If I understand the "Spotrac" breakdown correctly, the total guarantee as of March 2014 was $38M, and an additional $10M guarantees in 3/2015. If they dump him before March, they are still on the hook next year for a $19.5M cap hit after a cap charge this year of $18.5M.

    $38M for one year of service.

    Trade? Does anyone want him at roughly $16-21M/year? How much will they give to take on that obligation? Does a 32 year old 10 year vet still have "upside" to hope for????
    How about a bucket of ice cold water thrown on his head daily?



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    Let's hope Clausen has more Shaun Hill or Paul Justin in him than Manziel did last week.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pbmax View Post
    Let's hope Clausen has more Shaun Hill or Paul Justin in him than Manziel did last week.
    It doesn't matter................. Lions win.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Patler View Post

    Trade? Does anyone want him at roughly $16-21M/year? How much will they give to take on that obligation? Does a 32 year old 10 year vet still have "upside" to hope for????
    According to the National Football Post, the Jets might actually need Cutler's contract. The CBA requires teams to spend minimum amounts in four year periods, and the Jets are almost 5% below the minimum through the first two years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Patler View Post
    According to the National Football Post, the Jets might actually need Cutler's contract. The CBA requires teams to spend minimum amounts in four year periods, and the Jets are almost 5% below the minimum through the first two years.
    I would buy Jets tickets to see Rex Ryan coach Jay Cutler. But I don't think Rex is there much longer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pbmax View Post
    I would buy Jets tickets to see Rex Ryan coach Jay Cutler. But I don't think Rex is there much longer.

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    It's not even fun beating the Bears, these days. It really isn't. I certainly don't want a return to the 80's, but some competitive balance would be nice.

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    It really has become pathetic quickly hasn't it? Joe's pic nails it. It's like watching a train wreck. It used to be fun ripping on Rex and even Cutler... I never thought I'd actually start to feel sorry for their fans. Talk about a dire situation. They shoulda kept McCown. How bad is that?


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    Quote Originally Posted by vince View Post
    It really has become pathetic quickly hasn't it? Joe's pic nails it. It's like watching a train wreck. It used to be fun ripping on Rex and even Cutler... I never thought I'd actually start to feel sorry for their fans. Talk about a dire situation. They shoulda kept McCown. How bad is that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fritz View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fritz View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by mraynrand View Post
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    Too many people going down with the ship for that one. The entire coaching staff for starters is in shambles - offensive coordinator, defensive coordinator, o-line coach, special teams, the head coach clearly has no control over this ship, the GM's draftpicks and free agent pickups have just about universally failed. Cutler, the whole damn team is sunk. Briggs is done. Tillman hasn't played much in two years it seems. They have no safety talent. They get gashed through the air and still only have the 18th ranked rush D by yards. The offensive line is really offensive.

    Keep Forte and the receivers but even they're getting old except Jefferies. The rookie CB can stay too but that's about it. Staring at cap nightmares with a dramatically underperforming $20 million annual weight around your neck. The fanbase has totally turned on the team and is pulling the ship and everyone on it down with them.

    The bottom is clearly in sight... the preseason favorite to earn the 2016 #1 draft pick.

    Is there a team out there that will be dumb enough to take the noose that is Jay Cutler and tie it around their own neck?

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    Quote Originally Posted by vince View Post
    Too many people going down with the ship for that one. The entire coaching staff for starters is in shambles - offensive coordinator, defensive coordinator, o-line coach, special teams, the head coach clearly has no control over this ship, the GM's draftpicks and free agent pickups have just about universally failed. Cutler, the whole damn team is sunk. Briggs is done. Tillman hasn't played much in two years it seems. They have no safety talent. They get gashed through the air and still only have the 18th ranked rush D by yards. The offensive line is really offensive.

    Keep Forte and the receivers but even they're getting old except Jefferies. The rookie CB can stay too but that's about it. Staring at cap nightmares with a dramatically underperforming $20 million annual weight around your neck. The fanbase has totally turned on the team and is pulling the ship and everyone on it down with them.

    The bottom is clearly in sight... the preseason favorite to earn the 2016 #1 draft pick.

    Is there a team out there that will be dumb enough to take the noose that is Jay Cutler and tie it around their own neck?
    Briggs, Tillman and Paea are all free agents this year. Jeffery and Forte will be free agents in 2016. A lot of players to sign or replace and it looks like they're going to have to draft a QB. The Bears are going to have to hire someone to run that team with enough of a reputation that their own free agents will want to stay. It won't be easy.

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