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    Quote Originally Posted by pbmax View Post
    Start of the moment research on corporeal punishment, written up by a 17 year veteran of Public School teaching.

    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2...ce-of-spanking
    That's so fucking stupid of Barclay. If you hit an adult with a stick and leave welts, you go to jail for assault. If you hit a kid with a stick and leave welts, it's a teaching tool? How much further backwards could that thinking be?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zool View Post
    That's so fucking stupid of Barclay. If you hit an adult with a stick and leave welts, you go to jail for assault. If you hit a kid with a stick and leave welts, it's a teaching tool? How much further backwards could that thinking be?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zool View Post
    That's so fucking stupid of Barclay. If you hit an adult with a stick and leave welts, you go to jail for assault. If you hit a kid with a stick and leave welts, it's a teaching tool? How much further backwards could that thinking be?
    Leave Don Barclay out of this, he doesn't spank his kids and plus he's injured and cannot defend himself.

    Spanking is the civic and domestic analogue to concussions in team sports. In both cases scientific evidence is way ahead of and completely at odds with mainstream culture.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hoosier View Post
    Leave Don Barclay out of this, he doesn't spank his kids and plus he's injured and cannot defend himself.

    Spanking is the civic and domestic analogue to concussions in team sports. In both cases scientific evidence is way ahead of and completely at odds with mainstream culture.
    Sounds like "settled science" once again.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2001/08/25/us...-spanking.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by HowardRoark View Post
    Sounds like "settled science" once again.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2001/08/25/us...-spanking.html
    Indeed. Tanier's article in my link touched on research that said there was evidence that "conditional spanking" had some positive affect.

    However, I don't think Peterson falls into this category (from Howard's article):

    Dr. Baumrind described findings from her own research, an analysis of data from a long-term study of more than 100 families, indicating that mild to moderate spanking had no detrimental effects when such confounding influences were separated out. When the parents who delivered severe punishment -- for example, frequently spanking with a paddle or striking a child in the face -- were removed from the analysis, Dr. Baumrind and her colleague, Dr. Elizabeth Owens, found that few harmful effects linked with spanking were left. And the few that remained could be explained by other aspects of the parent-child relationship.
    Stunning that if you remove the worst cases, the results are not as severe and "could" be explained by other factors they were unable to control for.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zool View Post
    That's so fucking stupid of Barclay. If you hit an adult with a stick and leave welts, you go to jail for assault. If you hit a kid with a stick and leave welts, it's a teaching tool? How much further backwards could that thinking be?
    May I just point out that the person making those comments was Barkley, as in Charles, not Barclay, as in Don.
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