OFFICIAL 2015 NFL DRAFT THREAD

[pittstang5]

It's Anthony or bust for me. Gotta find a way to get him.

[Carolina_Packer]

It's Anthony or bust for me. Gotta find a way to get him.

How do you guys compare Anthony's skills to Kendricks'? Would anyone here be bummed if the Packers selected Kendricks over Anthony?

[pbmax]

Albert Breer reports Todd Gurley medical recheck (5 different teams asked) have gone well. Likely will be available to start Week 1.

Practice before and start the game or just start practicing he doesn't specify.

And this leads us right back to the debate about the NFL rendering its own judgements outside the legal system:

Jason La Canfora ‏@JasonLaCanfora 36s36 seconds ago
Greg Hardy suspended 10 games. NFL investigation concludes he used physical force against Nicole Holder in at least four instances ...

[hoosier]

Albert Breer reports Todd Gurley medical recheck (5 different teams asked) have gone well. Likely will be available to start Week 1.

Practice before and start the game or just start practicing he doesn't specify.

And this leads us right back to the debate about the NFL rendering its own judgements outside the legal system:

Jason La Canfora ‏@JasonLaCanfora 36s36 seconds ago
Greg Hardy suspended 10 games. NFL investigation concludes he used physical force against Nicole Holder in at least four instances ...

Roughing the kicker gets you 15 yards, roughing the Holder gets you 10 games.

[mraynrand]

Roughing the kicker gets you 15 yards, roughing the Holder gets you 10 games.

take it to FYI

[Carolina_Packer]

PB, I wonder if that means that the Cowboys will just cut him? 10 out of 16 games...man! Sure, his deal is very incentive-laden, but is it even worth it for the 6 games that you'll have him, and all the pub?

[pbmax]

PB, I wonder if that means that the Cowboys will just cut him? 10 out of 16 games...man! Sure, his deal is very incentive-laden, but is it even worth it for the 6 games that you'll have him, and all the pub?

I think the games available bonuses mean the Cowboys expected something like this. But even if its on the high side for them, they aren't going to reconsider until he appeals.

[BZnDallas]

PB, I wonder if that means that the Cowboys will just cut him? 10 out of 16 games...man! Sure, his deal is very incentive-laden, but is it even worth it for the 6 games that you'll have him, and all the pub?

I would think its worth it. Hardy would be fresh and probably hitting his stide come playoff time. Assuming...... This really helps the cowboys from what I can tell. Now all the money they save not paying him those first 10 games can go elsewhere. 6+ million iI believe.

[denverYooper]

I would think its worth it. Hardy would be fresh and probably hitting his girlfriend come playoff time.

FIFY

[Carolina_Packer]

Good choice, Wist. Everyone talks about the really flashy, sexy WR's. I think Nelson Agholor is a swiss army knife. His return skills would really help too. I heard him interviewed on Sirius XM and he sounds very articulate, and like a gym rat, football guy, very much into process, route running, and improvement. I hope he slips and that TT is forced to consider drafting him purely out of value. I think he could be one of those guys who blooms in the NFL, especially if he plays with a great QB.

[pittstang5]

Anyone do any research on Davis Tull, DE/OLB from U.Tenn-Chattanooga. Looks like he played DE but might be trying to make the switch to OLB in a 3-4. His measurables are really good.

I watched some tape and he's relentless. He doesn't always get to the QB, but disrupts the pocket when he doesn't.

Draft sites have him all over the board from a 3-4 Rounder all the way to a FA. Thoughts on this guy?

[wist43]

Anyone do any research on Davis Tull, DE/OLB from U.Tenn-Chattanooga. Looks like he played DE but might be trying to make the switch to OLB in a 3-4. His measurables are really good.

I watched some tape and he's relentless. He doesn't always get to the QB, but disrupts the pocket when he doesn't.

Draft sites have him all over the board from a 3-4 Rounder all the way to a FA. Thoughts on this guy?

I posted about him in the other thread... I have him as ILB though - don't think he can make on the outside. Short arms gets him hung up quite a bit - but I like his motor, he runs well, seems instinctive, and he's tough... he belongs inside in the NFL IMO.

[Guiness]

Good choice, Wist. Everyone talks about the really flashy, sexy WR's. I think Nelson Agholor is a swiss army knife. His return skills would really help too. I heard him interviewed on Sirius XM and he sounds very articulate, and like a gym rat, football guy, very much into process, route running, and improvement. I hope he slips and that TT is forced to consider drafting him purely out of value. I think he could be one of those guys who blooms in the NFL, especially if he plays with a great QB.

A Swiss Army knife? Packers tried a toolbelt with Tori Gurley, but he didn't stick in GB (or anywhere else). The thing about that type of a player is they still have to have at least one tool that is exceptional, and Tori didn't. Does Agholor?

[wist43]

A Swiss Army knife? Packers tried a toolbelt with Tori Gurley, but he didn't stick in GB (or anywhere else). The thing about that type of a player is they still have to have at least one tool that is exceptional, and Tori didn't. Does Agholor?

Runs good routes, gets into and out of his breaks quickly, has good hands, good production... the kid is a player.

Sr. year - 104 catches, 1313 yds, 12 TD's

[Fritz]

Old saw, but I want to reiterate two points: one, that outside of the QB position, I am all for the BPA choice in the first round, which is the round most people want TT to use to draft for need.

But if you can get a workmanlike, Hawk-like, serviceable ILB with your first round pick, or you could get a guy whom you're pretty sure can become an All Pro, you've got to take that guy. I make exception for the QB position just because if you draft a QB in the first round I don't think you'll very likely get your use of him. You'll develop him for a year or two, and his contract will almost be up, and if you're lucky Arod will still be playing. So then you're stuck getting little value out of your first round pick, whereas if you pick a QB in the fourth and develop him, you might even trade him later for a first. And end up drafting Jamaal Reynolds with that pick.

The second point is that I realize that none of us really know WTF is a good pick or not a good pick until years later. Not even Ted knows when he picks a guy. We have opinions, yes, and we sometimes try to back them with stats or film clips, but on the whole, we can bitch and moan or get all excited, but we just don't know.

Here's a list of Packer picks I was very excited about. And it's not a complete list, just a few names I loved when they were called during the Packers' time on the clock:

Jerel Worthy
Robert "Turd" Ferguson
Darrell Thompson
Will Blackmon
Khyri Thornton
Derrick Sherrod
Alex Green
Patrick Lee
Abdul Hodge
Kenny Peterson
Fred Vinson
Derrick Mayes
Gabe Wilins

The Washout Hall of Fame, for the most part. Doh!

[Zool]

So then you're stuck getting little value out of your first round pick, whereas if you pick a QB in the fourth and develop him, you might even trade him later for a first. And end up drafting Jamaal Reynolds with that pick.

Fuck dude....way to pick that old scab.

[Fritz]

Fuck dude....way to pick that old scab.

That's nothing.

Try 4th and 26.

[Bretsky]

Old saw, but I want to reiterate two points: one, that outside of the QB position, I am all for the BPA choice in the first round, which is the round most people want TT to use to draft for need.

But if you can get a workmanlike, Hawk-like, serviceable ILB with your first round pick, or you could get a guy whom you're pretty sure can become an All Pro, you've got to take that guy. I make exception for the QB position just because if you draft a QB in the first round I don't think you'll very likely get your use of him. You'll develop him for a year or two, and his contract will almost be up, and if you're lucky Arod will still be playing. So then you're stuck getting little value out of your first round pick, whereas if you pick a QB in the fourth and develop him, you might even trade him later for a first. And end up drafting Jamaal Reynolds with that pick.

The second point is that I realize that none of us really know WTF is a good pick or not a good pick until years later. Not even Ted knows when he picks a guy. We have opinions, yes, and we sometimes try to back them with stats or film clips, but on the whole, we can bitch and moan or get all excited, but we just don't know.

Here's a list of Packer picks I was very excited about. And it's not a complete list, just a few names I loved when they were called during the Packers' time on the clock:

Jerel Worthy
Robert "Turd" Ferguson
Darrell Thompson
Will Blackmon
Khyri Thornton
Derrick Sherrod
Alex Green
Patrick Lee
Abdul Hodge
Kenny Peterson
Fred Vinson
Derrick Mayes
Gabe Wilins

The Washout Hall of Fame, for the most part. Doh!

OF THAT LIST I BOLDED THE ONES I HATED and UNDERLINED THE ONES I LOVED


Still upset we drafted the Fraud over Chris Chambers !!!!

[Guiness]

@RobDemovsky

Former #Packers WR Donald Driver will announce the team's second-round pick in next week's draft, the NFL says.


Cool

[pbmax]

C'mon, this is the draft thread. A tale of overall, sustained excellence for 23 years.

If you want to self-flagellate, start a coaching decision thread with Holmgren trying to teach Dorsey Levens a lesson about holding out in camp.