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    Quote Originally Posted by pbmax View Post
    Wayback Machine 1992: http://articles.baltimoresun.com/199...desmond-howard

    A draft trade that worked out for no one, not even the team that was jumped over (Packers). It was lose-lose-lose, especially Washington.
    "Cincinnati -- which wanted quarterback David Klinger"

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    Quote Originally Posted by pbmax View Post
    Wayback Machine 1992: http://articles.baltimoresun.com/199...desmond-howard

    A draft trade that worked out for no one, not even the team that was jumped over (Packers). It was lose-lose-lose, especially Washington.
    Not quite... Even though they did take Klingler, the Bengals also got Daryl Williams, a pretty good safety. Packers and Redskins got fully hosed, though.

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    JS Comments ‏@JSComments 3h3 hours ago
    Packers should spend more time scouting potential free agents from the pro ranks than on the draft. Oh, that's right. Ted's too cheap

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    Quote Originally Posted by pbmax View Post
    JS Comments ‏@JSComments 3h3 hours ago
    Packers should spend more time scouting potential free agents from the pro ranks than on the draft. Oh, that's right. Ted's too cheap

    red, get off JSO already.
    Lol, these comments crack me up. Do these morons think TT pockets every dollar the Packers don't spend?
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    He was decent. But not until after he left GB.

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    Shane Ray - DE - Missouri cited for marijuana possession. CBS has him the 13th overall prospect. http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap300...ana-possession

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    http://fanspeak.com/ontheclock/premi...t.php?d=jcsqdc

    Did one last on-the-clock draft. Traded back three times in the first two rounds. Ended up picking 13 guys.

    R2 - CB BYRON JONES, CONNECTICUT <-mid 2nd
    R3 - CB ERIC ROWE, UTAH <- very early 3rd, after trading down. Colts took McKinney right in front of me at 2-30
    R4 - WR RASHAD GREENE, FLORIDA STATE <- value selection
    R4 - TE JEFF HEUERMAN, OHIO STATE <- not BPA, but decent value
    R4 - OT DONOVAN SMITH, PENN STATE
    R4 - FS ADRIAN AMOS, PENN STATE
    R4 - ILB BEN HEENEY, KANSAS <- arguably my biggest reach. Needed someone
    R4 - OLB ZA'DARIUS SMITH, KENTUCKY
    R5 - RB JEREMY LANGFORD, MICHIGAN STATE <- traded up
    R6 - ILB MIKE HULL, PENN STATE <- traded up
    R6 - QB SEAN MANNION, OREGON STATE <- Obligatory QB pick
    R6 - RB TYLER VARGA, YALE <- Jalston Fowler was also available. Take your pick.
    R7 - TE NICK BOYLE, DELAWARE <- Project LBs Alani Fua and Obum Gwamcham as well as Xavier Dickson were all available and Dickson would probably have been a better pick

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    Just from spending time reading all the draftiness, it seems everyone loves the WR class more than any position group.

    Does this mean they go in the first and push other positions to Packers, or will the Packers face a WR BPA at 30?
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    Quote Originally Posted by pbmax View Post
    Just from spending time reading all the draftiness, it seems everyone loves the WR class more than any position group.

    Does this mean they go in the first and push other positions to Packers, or will the Packers face a WR BPA at 30?
    I think WR's will push DT's down to the Packers. Malcom brown, Eddie Goldman, Jordan Phillips and Arik Armstead are all possibilities to be available at #30.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joemailman View Post
    I think WR's will push DT's down to the Packers. Malcom brown, Eddie Goldman, Jordan Phillips and Arik Armstead are all possibilities to be available at #30.
    Lotta mocks have the Pack taking a CB; more than I would have guessed. I wonder of they are less sold on Hayward than I am or if the CBs are just better first round value than ILB?
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    Quote Originally Posted by pbmax View Post
    Lotta mocks have the Pack taking a CB; more than I would have guessed. I wonder of they are less sold on Hayward than I am or if the CBs are just better first round value than ILB?
    Definitely this. There are no first round talents at ILB IMO and several CBs that fit Ted's mold.
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    Mike Tanier's Eagles Mock Draft: http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2...-picks/page/21

    Here is the full Eagles mock draft. If you don’t understand the logic behind the moves, it is because you are not smart enough:

    1st Round: Jordan Spieth, Texas

    2nd Round: Manny Pacquiao, Notre Dame of Dadiangas

    3rd Round: Sam Dekker, Wisconsin (as a running back)

    4th Round: American Pharoah, Zayat Stables. When things go wrong, Kelly ain’t going out like Richard III.

    5th Round: Hroniss Grasu, Oregon. What? The Eagles need depth at center!

    5th Round: Sent to Chargers as part of the Connor Barwin-Philip Rivers-Adrian Peterson-Johnny Manziel trade to acquire Giancarlo Stanton.

    6th Round: Jordan Lewis, Hawthorn. Kelly has plans to revolutionize Austalian football, too.

    7th Round: Someone who will be blamed on Howie Roseman.
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    I agree that value might dictate taking a CB in the 1st round, but there are only a few ILB's worthy of going in the 2nd round - they'll likely be gone by the time our pick comes around.

    There are some ILB's further down I like... any way you slice it, we have to come away with 2 viable ILB candidates in this draft. The cupboard is bare, so unless that start bringing in bartenders...
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    Quote Originally Posted by wist43 View Post
    I agree that value might dictate taking a CB in the 1st round, but there are only a few ILB's worthy of going in the 2nd round - they'll likely be gone by the time our pick comes around.

    There are some ILB's further down I like... any way you slice it, we have to come away with 2 viable ILB candidates in this draft. The cupboard is bare, so unless that start bringing in bartenders...
    If 3irty1 is right, I could see a trade down out of the first, select there and then move the 2nd round pick up for CB and ILB in that order.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pbmax View Post
    If 3irty1 is right, I could see a trade down and then trade back up for CB and ILB in that order.
    With all the depth of the draft in the 2nd day it might be tough to trade down. If a sweet prize falls or if someone wants a 5th year on a QB or something I could see it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wist43 View Post
    I agree that value might dictate taking a CB in the 1st round, but there are only a few ILB's worthy of going in the 2nd round - they'll likely be gone by the time our pick comes around.

    There are some ILB's further down I like... any way you slice it, we have to come away with 2 viable ILB candidates in this draft. The cupboard is bare, so unless that start bringing in bartenders...
    One thing we do is compare players in the same draft class. One thing we don't do much of is to compare relatively unknown players already on the roster to those in the draft class.

    I wonder how someone like Carl Bradford measures against, say. Dawson or Anthony.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fritz View Post
    One thing we do is compare players in the same draft class. One thing we don't do much of is to compare relatively unknown players already on the roster to those in the draft class.

    I wonder how someone like Carl Bradford measures against, say. Dawson or Anthony.
    Bradford has short arms, and didn't show much of anything last year... short arms aren't a deal breaker necessarily, but if he doesn't have some other redeeming quality suited to playing ILB, I think it will be tough for him to stick around. All he had to do in college was go forward - playing ILB asks a lot more of a player than just flying off the edge. We'll see.

    Dawson looks good on tape, but my God was a bad at the combine... slow and unathletic. So which guy is he?? A stud player on the next level, or a guy who looked artificially good b/c of the level of competition??

    Anthony I like... a little stiff in the hips, and don't like his ability to change direction, but other than that, he's a decent player IMO.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wist43 View Post
    Bradford has short arms, and didn't show much of anything last year... short arms aren't a deal breaker necessarily, but if he doesn't have some other redeeming quality suited to playing ILB, I think it will be tough for him to stick around. All he had to do in college was go forward - playing ILB asks a lot more of a player than just flying off the edge. We'll see.

    Dawson looks good on tape, but my God was a bad at the combine... slow and unathletic. So which guy is he?? A stud player on the next level, or a guy who looked artificially good b/c of the level of competition??

    Anthony I like... a little stiff in the hips, and don't like his ability to change direction, but other than that, he's a decent player IMO.
    Your point about the short arms is good, but I was thinking more about the measureables plus whatever the coaches saw or did not see. So what I'm thinking is that someone like TT or MM has to think not only about whether Dawson is better than Anthony (or whomever), but whether they think he's better than Bradford.

    On the other hand, this doesn't account for the possibility that they may be looking for a certain type of ILB. If they think of Barrington as a heavy hitter, a run stopper, do they want a rangier, more cover-guy type instead of going for another heavy hitter?

    My own very limited sense is that McKinney may be the guy that has the most ceiling - if the coaches think he can be taught to cover well. I don't want two guys back there who bring the lumber but can't cover - but I don't want another Brad Jones, either.
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    Ian Rapoport ‏@RapSheet 24m24 minutes ago
    Intent on showing his recent citation for pot won’t define him, Shane Ray is en route to Chicago for #NFLDraft. Will be in the green room

    File this under. "Even if it works out, doesn't mean it was a good idea".
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