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    PERSONELL EXPERTS COLOR PACKERS a 8-8 TEAM

    LIFE IS ABOUT CHAMPIONSHIPS; I JUST REALIZED THIS. The MILWAUKEE BUCKS have won the same number of championships over the past 50 years as the Green Bay Packers. Ten years from now, who will have more championships, and who will be the fart in the wind ?

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    hey....a personnel guy called Sherrod "Just a guy"............has he improved ?

    Honestly, a bit surprised by this. I predicted GB to go 11-5 so I'm a bit surprised by the tone there

    I'm also surprised Detroit was a one point favorite Sunday and since most money is going with Detroit the line has increased to them being a 2 pt favorite.
    LIFE IS ABOUT CHAMPIONSHIPS; I JUST REALIZED THIS. The MILWAUKEE BUCKS have won the same number of championships over the past 50 years as the Green Bay Packers. Ten years from now, who will have more championships, and who will be the fart in the wind ?

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    Rodgers is the only pro-bowl player, lol
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    Quick thoughts:
    1.) Bob's latched on to the "last X games" stat.
    2.) "An experienced executive in personnel for a National Football League team thinks there is." Fine sentences there, Bob. Did JSO fire their editors?
    3.) Bob has no idea how a betting line works.
    4.) Josh Sitton, the guy who comes out with a clean sheet every week, and has been in the conversation for 3 years for best guard in the league, is a "player you can win with".
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    I thought the guy's breakdown of the various players and units was fair. I just don't see how he comes up with 8-8. Does he think the 2014 Packers with a healthy Rodgers and Matthews is no better than the 2013 version that missed those guys for half the year?
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    8-8 would be disappointing, but not surprising.

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    Wasn't there talk this summer of this being McCarthy's most talented team?

    All the grades were reasonable with these mild surprises:
    The scout really likes Richard Rogers, has him as a more promising rookie than Ha Ha
    Is Barrington better than Latimore?

    I like the choice of brown to color the shitty players

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    Yes. An 8 win team last year without your elite QB and still the same this year with him. Pathetic evals by 'professionals'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smuggler View Post
    Yes. An 8 win team last year without your elite QB and still the same this year with him. Pathetic evals by 'professionals'.
    That's just what I was thinking. Arod is worth more than half a game improvement by playing all 16 games. Last year Bob had a column on how we could survive an absence of ARod. This year we get this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by smuggler View Post
    Yes. An 8 win team last year without your elite QB and still the same this year with him. Pathetic evals by 'professionals'.
    But I think they are also considering the other NFC teams too.
    Last year everybody was on board with GB being the elite of the NFC North
    I still think we are; but there are MANY in the industry not on board with that
    Some think the Lions will win the NFC north and many are picking the Bears
    Last year it was all about GB and many of those same pundits were picking GB to the Super Bowl
    LIFE IS ABOUT CHAMPIONSHIPS; I JUST REALIZED THIS. The MILWAUKEE BUCKS have won the same number of championships over the past 50 years as the Green Bay Packers. Ten years from now, who will have more championships, and who will be the fart in the wind ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bretsky View Post
    But I think they are also considering the other NFC teams too.
    Last year everybody was on board with GB being the elite of the NFC North
    I still think we are; but there are MANY in the industry not on board with that
    Some think the Lions will win the NFC north and many are picking the Bears
    Last year it was all about GB and many of those same pundits were picking GB to the Super Bowl
    Overall, the Lions have better personnel than we do... it all comes down to Stafford vs. Rodgers.

    If Stafford has truly improved his game, the Lions should win the division.

    Chicago is just below us I think, but they have more skill position talent than we do.

    Minnesota losing Peterson kills them, so they're not in the conversation anymore.
    wist

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    That's the best McGinn and the journal can come up with on a game day Sunday morning? McGinn referred to the person he interviewed as an "expert", an "executive", and a "scout".

    The article is about individual/position personnel as some "unnamed expert/executive/scout" views things. The "unnamed expert/executive/scout" picked Minnesota to win the NFC North. The "unnamed expert/executive/scout " must think Minnesota is the best team with the best personnel in the division. I'd like to know what team the unnamed "expert/executive/scout" works for. I hope he has a lifetime contract with them.

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    I think it's fair to say the scout was also considering upgrades the other nfc teams have made as well. I'd bet he thinks both the Bears and Lions have improved more than GB.
    It's easy to pick a writer apart on every article; but those in the industry consider McGinn among the best. I'd agree with Joe in that the article, for the most part was fair.
    But in my mind at worst they should still have come to the conclusion that at worse they were a marginal playoff team instead of garnering a record that does not get them in the playoffs.
    Consider me a homer...I guess
    LIFE IS ABOUT CHAMPIONSHIPS; I JUST REALIZED THIS. The MILWAUKEE BUCKS have won the same number of championships over the past 50 years as the Green Bay Packers. Ten years from now, who will have more championships, and who will be the fart in the wind ?

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    from the article....

    "An experienced executive in personnel for a National Football League team thinks there is.

    In an extended interview last week, the personnel man assigned a grade to each of the Packers' 60 players for the Journal Sentinel and broke down the roster position-by-position. Selected because of his level of expertise and success in the NFL, he has studied the Packers this summer, this September and for years before that."

    Put your name to it, or else it could all just be Bob's agenda. This is not legal case where comments would put the person in jeopardy, so why not put a name to it? Weak stuff that tries and succeeds to gain clicks, but has a weak basis without a named source.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Carolina_Packer View Post
    Put your name to it, or else it could all just be Bob's agenda.
    If you think McGinn is a sleazeball, then ignore it. If you think McGinn has been an honest pundit over years, then trust him. Your choice.

    I have no problem with an anonymous analyst. His employer undoubtedly doesn't want the organization's views on players known.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carolina_Packer View Post
    from the article....

    "An experienced executive in personnel for a National Football League team thinks there is.

    In an extended interview last week, the personnel man assigned a grade to each of the Packers' 60 players for the Journal Sentinel and broke down the roster position-by-position. Selected because of his level of expertise and success in the NFL, he has studied the Packers this summer, this September and for years before that."

    Put your name to it, or else it could all just be Bob's agenda. This is not legal case where comments would put the person in jeopardy, so why not put a name to it? Weak stuff that tries and succeeds to gain clicks, but has a weak basis without a named source.
    I'm hoping it's Matt Millen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joemailman View Post
    I'm hoping it's Matt Millen.
    McGinn is a good reporter. I am sure he adheres to strict journalism ethics, and he would not have made up a source out of the blue.

    It seems like McGinn's Deep Throat currently is employed by an NFL team.

    "Selected because of his level of expertise and success in the NFL, he has studied the Packers this summer, this September and for years before that...His preseason pick to win the NFC North was Minnesota. "

    Using inductive reasoning, I've come to the conclusion that this Deep Throat is none other than Rick Spielman, GM of the Vikings, or "Queens."

    Believe it or not, the Vikings actually experienced success under Speilman. They were 13-3 or something like that one season, reached the NFC Title game and, if not for a Brad Childress fuck up late in the game (illegal substitution, I think, to put the Queens out of fg range), they would've made the SB.

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    Okay, Blue Dog - maybe you're right. They missed the "poor" end of the spectrum. Maybe that color coding needed to be more extensive.

    Brown - Bad player. Shitty.
    Brown, streaked with red - a player who is not only bad but is representative of a larger sickness in the team.
    Brown, with corn - bad player, but colorful.
    Blackish-brown - a bad player who ate far too much steak the night before.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fritz View Post
    Brown, with corn - bad player, but colorful.
    That works. But I would use this for a new player who hasn't fully digested the packer system.

    Also, as to whether the player has any future at all in NFL, you might go with floaters and sinkers.

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    Lol Fritz

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