Cobb isn't the same kind of receiver as Jennings and Jones were and this is probably why we drafted Adams last spring. Cobb is still a slot receiver and if Adams continues to come on Randall will return to his spot.Originally Posted by Harlan Huckleby
Agree 100%. It's fashionable to say the Packers have a deep corps of WR's. The truth is they used to. In 2011 our starters were Jennings, Driver and Finley at TE. Jordy was a part-time starter with Jones and Cobb on the bench. Now that is a deep corps of receivers.
In the last few years we've lost Jennings, Driver, Jones and Finley. We've replaced them with...Boykin, Davante Adams, Janis and Richard Rodgers. That's a downgrade by anybody's calculation.
Jordy and Cobb are our starters. Cobb is a natural slot receiver and Jordy our natural downfield threat. Cobb is quick not fast. He's forced into a position of going downfield which is not his strength.
Seriously, the braintrust needs to get Adams and especially Janis into the picture ASAP. Adams is Jones-like. Janis is Jordy-like. We need their help now.
As for TE's? We should probably let them stay occupied blocking. None of them show any stand-out receiving ability.
One time Lombardi was disgusted with the team in practice and told them they were going to have to start with the basics. He held up a ball and said: "This is a football." McGee immediately called out, "Stop, coach, you're going too fast," and that gave everyone a laugh.
John Maxymuk, Packers By The Numbers
Are you trollin' again? Because I don't want to embarrass myself by agreeing with you
Harlan, I'm pretty sure you are! Pretty rose coloured glasses talking about Jones' productive seasons, he is second probably only to Bush in hate spewed at him for inconsistent performances and missed opportunities!
Jones' career year is a push when compared to Cobb's second season. The only number that is better, the TDs, is an outlier, Jones' second best total there is half that.
You can't compare Cobb to Jones or Jennings, he plays a vastly different role in the Pack's offense. He is the successor to Driver's X role, he's shifty and quick, and fearless going over the middle. Driver was crazy durable, which is one thing Cobb has not been so far.Code:2012 Jones 16 64 784 12.3 14 2012 Cobb 15 80 954 11.9 8
We'll see if Adams and Janis provide depth. Adams is off to a good start, Janis we haven't seen yet, but he was a 7th round pick so he's expected to take more time to have an impact. Boykin seems like a bottom of the roster guy who will be churned out.
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Excellent points on Cobb and Adams. The only thing I don't agree with (honest) is Janis. You can't teach speed and he's got more of it than anybody on offense. I say let him play now. He'd be valuable on special teams if nothing else. Let him run the option like Harvin. What do we have to lose?
He reminds me of the old Packer Bob Long. Just point him downfield and let him run. ARod will find him.
One time Lombardi was disgusted with the team in practice and told them they were going to have to start with the basics. He held up a ball and said: "This is a football." McGee immediately called out, "Stop, coach, you're going too fast," and that gave everyone a laugh.
John Maxymuk, Packers By The Numbers
Wasn't disagreeing with Janis, just saying we haven't seen him yet, so who knows. He was not active the first two game (maybe he was for one?), pretty sure he hasn't seen the field yet. Need more time yet to see if he's going to work out.Excellent points on Cobb and Adams. The only thing I don't agree with (honest
He reminds me of the old Packer Bob Long. Just point him downfield and let him run. ARod will find him.
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MI'm with you up to your last point. I think the new kid might have the receiving skills.
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Rodgers is a plodder. He's more Bubba Franks or Ed West than Jermichael Finley. Bostick is our best hope for a dynamic playmaker at TE.
"There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson
I'd take either Toolbox or Bubba right now!
I love Toolbox. But the Toolbox never ran a wheel route like Rodgers. There is a difference between pedestrian speed and blocking specialist.
Ed got a lot of late career attention as a short pass and red zone target when Harris was hurt or double covered. Holmgren loved the TE in the red zone.
Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.
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We really could use Jackie Harris on this team. Aaron Rodgers would make him a Pro Bowl candidate.
Rodgers is slow though. I think we really need Bostick and his 4.59 pro day speed, and we need him to stay healthy.
"There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson
Or Keith Jackson: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8xqV4IEJX1I
One time Lombardi was disgusted with the team in practice and told them they were going to have to start with the basics. He held up a ball and said: "This is a football." McGee immediately called out, "Stop, coach, you're going too fast," and that gave everyone a laugh.
John Maxymuk, Packers By The Numbers
A ton of great points in here but this one really nails what GB is missing
They miss a threat at TE the defense has to pay attention to.
They need a TE threat to emerge. Bostick is the only guy on this roster who might be able to be that IMO.
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Especially if Sherrod is still starting.
This all sounds about right.
I look at a slot WR as the #3 WR. They often are not able to get off jams, and may not have excellent downfield speed.
Jerry Rice was not big. He was fast enough, althougth not a burner. I knew Jerry Rice. He was a friend of mine. You Randall Cobb are not Jerry Rice. (I only mention Rice because Cobb's limitations are not just size or even speed.)
I'm laying down the gauntlet for Cobb. I hate because I love. Show me you are more than a guy this year.
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Rice was 6'2" 200. He wasn't Calvin Johnson big, but he was bigger than average.
"There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson
And he came into the league 30 years ago (!!!) that was damn good size.
From the '6 degrees of separation' file, Al "the WR drafted before Rice" Toon's son, who also played for the Badgers, is with NO. Hasn't had a great start to his career.
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OK, Alex, Great WRs six foot or shorter.
Who is Tim Brown?
Maybe Cobb is too short to play WR.
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