Jones played a different role. He was the big, strong kid who could out muscle and make the spectacular catch. Cobb's the slippery, shifty guy who's supposed to make a killing from the slot and with the YAC.
I think Harlans correct, I think the injury may have robbed him of some of his speed.
Rodgers mentioned on his weekly interview with Wilde that TE's haven't had a lot of opportunities because they've been staying in to block more. That is probably affecting Cobb. Getting Bulaga back and getting Bostick out there could help the situation.
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Ummm...Cobb has nothing on Jennings. Nothing.
Jennings in his prime was one of the most underrated wideouts in the league. Just a deadly route runner, creates big separation, beats guys deep regularly, and was crazy clutch (3rd and 10 in the superbowl??). This is not even debatable.
Cobb through two weeks has had a lot of trouble getting open. Been a big disappointment so far.
Even better disappointment has been Boykin. Not just because he hasn't produced and is being surpassed by Adams. But also because part of the reason we let Jones walk was because he was supposed to be up and coming. If last year was fluke, he screws us because Jones would have been cheap to bring back.
Draft Brandin Cooks WR OSU!
For the youngster rats...a really nice article on Bob Long: http://www.jsonline.com/sports/packe...217686531.html
And Bob Long's website, complete with video of his playing days: http://boblongnumber80.com/
Long was as fast as Janis and about the same height and weight. Watch the videos and tell me Janis doesn't run and catch like Bob Long.
One time Lombardi was disgusted with the team in practice and told them they were going to have to start with the basics. He held up a ball and said: "This is a football." McGee immediately called out, "Stop, coach, you're going too fast," and that gave everyone a laugh.
John Maxymuk, Packers By The Numbers
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Slot receivers are really their own position, and height isn't nearly as important as on the boundary. In fact it's probably detrimental just because of physics, they need to be balanced and quick. Good slot guys would be like Percy Harvin, Wes Welker, Danny Amendola, Davon Bess, and Victor Cruz. These guys are running routes in the same space as a tight end so their skills should compliment those of a tight end.
This is why its so hard to find a good slot cornerback. You need the size to match up with a tight end, but need the ability to change directions to cover a water-bug type receiver like Cobb.
70% of the Earth is covered by water. The rest is covered by Al Harris.
Randall Cobb remains on double secret probation. As a wide receiver he looked like an excellent punt returner in Detroit.
In first quarter Cobb was streaking down sideline and let a perfectly arced pass slip through his hands. pbmax thought play was headed out of bounds, but I watched again with my more trained, scout's eye. I think it was a critical fuckup and mo changer.
Well, they all make mistakes. But Cobb isn't getting enough separation to make many plays or mistakes.
I don't know what answer is at wide receiver. Cobb is clearly an appetizer, somebody else has to be the second entree.
I think the love being shown for Janis here is a bit too much. I question if he can run good routes or even run the offense. I don't see him being any better at getting separation because of that. Jennings did not get open because he was the fastest guy out there.
Thus, I don't see Janis doing anything more than spot work; however, maybe he should be doing that. Everyone knows that he has good speed. Teams might be worried about covering him with a slow DB and without deep help.
This.Originally Posted by sharpe1027
One time Lombardi was disgusted with the team in practice and told them they were going to have to start with the basics. He held up a ball and said: "This is a football." McGee immediately called out, "Stop, coach, you're going too fast," and that gave everyone a laugh.
John Maxymuk, Packers By The Numbers
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Hard to tell from the TV broadcast what type of separation our receivers are getting and what type of coverage they are seeing.
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Lot of Cover 2 especially after they lost another CB. JSO said it was Cover 2 Man outside with LBs taking very deep drops.
Same story as its been for the last 2.5 years. When they need to take short chunk yardage for a multi-play drive they find a way to self destruct. That pass to Jordy on the last drive was a perfect example. He had a likely first down to Adams on the other side.
Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.
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3rd and 2...guaranteed pass 20+ yards downfield. It is infuriating. Go get a damn RB that can catch a ball out of the backfield who is at least slightly faster than my grandmother.
It's such a GOOD feeling...13 TIME WORLD CHAMPIONS!!
I don't mind it normally. They have the talents (Nelson now, maybe Adams and Janis) to pull it off. But just like holding onto the ball, there are certain times its not advised. Fourth down is not the time for a contested shot at the end zone if someone else was open for a first.
Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.
Take what their giving you, don't get too locked onto one or two guys.
For Cover 2, it would help to have a pass catching TE to work the middle of the field.
"Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not his own facts." -Daniel Patrick Moynihan
Do the Packers in general have the talent at receiver they need? Over the last few years they have lost Donald Driver, Greg Jennings, James Jones and Jermichael Finley. They have been replaced by Randall Cobb, Jarrett Boykin, Davante Adams and Richard Rodgers. At the least, there may be some growing pains before we see the kind of offense we're used to.
Ring the bells that still can ring
Forget your perfect offering
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That's how the light gets in - Leonard Cohen
Cobb will be fine. He's a little rusty after being injured last year. He's missed at least 4 balls this year that he seemed able to grab in the past, but he's usually rated one of the better hands guys by FO.
Quarless is even coming on a bit as someone Rodgers is starting to trust. He won't be flashy, but he's had some good hands in traffic this year and Rodgers is finding him a bit more. Bostick is still a big ? If he can knock off the dumb penalties, he might get a shot to impress.
The 3rd WR spot is troubling. That's a key position in the McCarthy/Rodgers offense and Boykin fell off of a cliff this year. Adams has flashed a bit there, but he's still pretty green.
When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro ~Hunter S.
After preseason and three games, a 4th year pro can't use the rusty card.
I'm buying into argument that Cobb needs to be a slot receiver. He's not good enough to be a #2, Janis or Adams will have to be solution.
McGinn says Cobb is already playing exclusively in slot. And he still isn't cutting it.
http://www.jsonline.com/sports/packe...276415381.htmlNot once did Cobb line up outside. All day long he had the slot two-way go against the Lions' fifth and sixth nickel backs, Danny Gorrer and Mohammed Seisay. A hard grader would give Cobb two drops. More alarming was the fact he couldn't beat these newly arrived free agents like a drum. Playing slot in this offense with this quarterback should be a ticket to enormous production and the stardom that goes with that. But Cobb's ho-hum play throughout training camp has carried over into the regular season.
His 5 tds lead the league.
All he does is score touchdowns.
Ring the bells that still can ring
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That's how the light gets in - Leonard Cohen
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