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    I think they need to say "f it" and get Adams and Janis playing time. If none of the other guys want to step up, see if the rooks are ready.

    I know there's all these nuances, etc etc etc that they need to get, but other teams are managing with their rookie receivers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Striker View Post
    I think they need to say "f it" and get Adams and Janis playing time. If none of the other guys want to step up, see if the rooks are ready.

    I know there's all these nuances, etc etc etc that they need to get, but other teams are managing with their rookie receivers.
    Agree. I think Janis should play against Chicago. Then, if they try to do what the Lions did & take away Jordy, we will have Jordy 2.o on the other side.
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    That safety play was outrageous. It looked like Madden's AI was controlling the right side of that line. Dick Rodgers looked like he was blocking a grenade, Lang was blocking air. If Tom Crabtree is on this team, there is no safety.

    Also what a great slice of luck picking off a ball to the 1 yard line. I think everyone knew when that happened that Stafford had just thrown a 2 point TD pass. The Lions drive after the field position from the safety kick led to 3 points as well so you could blame that on the offense as well. The fact that the defense only gave up what it did despite against 40 minutes of lions offense is goddamn spectacular. What a waste of a great performance from the D.
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    Of all the plays he did take wide, he would have been well served to take that one outside.
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    I will defer to the experts on the blocking scheme question. The one thing I do know is that next time GB is backed up against its goal line, the first down play call is going to be a pass.

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    1. They have not made the in line cut block that the Broncos used illegal. And the chop block is not illegal in running plays except in very specific situations.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chop_bl...iron_football)

    2. It wasn't a ZBS play, it was a trap but something went bad elsewhere. Trap blocking has won Super Bowls since before there was a Silverdome, much less Ford Field.

    3. Bulaga doesn't whiff.

    4. Drive blocking fails as well if there is an unblocked guy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pbmax View Post
    1. They have not made the in line cut block that the Broncos used illegal. And the chop block is not illegal in running plays except in very specific situations.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chop_bl...iron_football)

    2. It wasn't a ZBS play, it was a trap but something went bad elsewhere. Trap blocking has won Super Bowls since before there was a Silverdome, much less Ford Field.

    3. Bulaga doesn't whiff.

    4. Drive blocking fails as well if there is an unblocked guy.
    Pretty sure I remember them saying they were going to make that cut block illegal?? It absolutely should be - don't know how it can be legal to ram your helmet into the back of a guys knee... when it used to happen to Gilbert all the time, you'd look at it and think, '... that can't be legal'; and then the announcers would go on and on about how it was legal - go figure.

    If I were playing against Mark Schlereth - his career would have ended many years before it did, b/c the first time he did that to me, I'd chop him in the fucking throat, and spit on him as he choked to death on the field.

    As for the disasterous play that MM called - you seem to think a slow developing play in that situation is a fine idea - so, have at it, it's all yours man.

    If I had the kind of players we have on our OL - I wouldn't have even considered running it there... would have been a pass all the way. If that were incomplete, I would have passed on 2nd down, and 3rd down. If they go incomplete?? Then Detroit is gonna get the ball back on the 35 yd line, and go about playing defense. It is what it is... not a good situation, but for my money, the one thing you don't do is call a passive, slow developing run play.

    You seem to like passive football though... as do most Packerrats it would seem.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wist43 View Post
    Pretty sure I remember them saying they were going to make that cut block illegal?? It absolutely should be - don't know how it can be legal to ram your helmet into the back of a guys knee... when it used to happen to Gilbert all the time, you'd look at it and think, '... that can't be legal'; and then the announcers would go on and on about how it was legal - go figure.

    If I were playing against Mark Schlereth - his career would have ended many years before it did, b/c the first time he did that to me, I'd chop him in the fucking throat, and spit on him as he choked to death on the field.

    As for the disasterous play that MM called - you seem to think a slow developing play in that situation is a fine idea - so, have at it, it's all yours man.

    If I had the kind of players we have on our OL - I wouldn't have even considered running it there... would have been a pass all the way. If that were incomplete, I would have passed on 2nd down, and 3rd down. If they go incomplete?? Then Detroit is gonna get the ball back on the 35 yd line, and go about playing defense. It is what it is... not a good situation, but for my money, the one thing you don't do is call a passive, slow developing run play.

    You seem to like passive football though... as do most Packerrats it would seem.

    I'd add "passive 'predictable' football." When myself and my family can accurately predict the negative outcomes of plays before they happen, it's clear we are getting way too predictable. And it's not like we predicted bad outcomes the entire game. Just see my post a page or 2 back and see how dumb/stubborn MM is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by channtheman View Post
    I'd add "passive 'predictable' football." When myself and my family can accurately predict the negative outcomes of plays before they happen, it's clear we are getting way too predictable. And it's not like we predicted bad outcomes the entire game. Just see my post a page or 2 back and see how dumb/stubborn MM is.
    It's easy to second guess. Fans just want better results. Someone put a vine on another thread that showed the safety play on a loop. Not sure why Richard Rodgers was in at TE in that spot when he is clearly not the blocker that Quarless is. Rodgers gets blown up on the play and Lacy seems to have his vision into the line, but there appears to be a pretty good sized open area to his right if he just bounces it to the right of the line. He probably would have gotten a few yards of breathing room.

    I'm not so worried a giving up plays like this on occasion, when the bigger issue making the run game work consistently throughout the game. That will only help the passing game. MM and AR have had a sub-par running game in he past and AR was able to overcome because he had more overall talent at WR/TE. We are in a bit of a lull overall at those positions. We'll get great play from Jordy, probably Cobb eventually, but who after that?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Carolina_Packer View Post
    We'll get great play from Jordy, probably Cobb eventually, but who after that?
    I'm pulling for Janis. The guy did all you asked him to do in preseason. Now all he needs is a chance. I know I sound like a broken record, but you can't coach height and speed. Janis has both.
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    If they're going to activate Janis, they're probably going to have to go with 5 WR's. Because of the time he missed, he may not know enough of the offense to be #4.
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