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    More Banjo: @ Lions Week 3

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    McCarthy: I like the mechanics of how we game planned. This was more about taking advantage of opportunities. #GBvsDET

    Translation: Should have worked and was open. Doesn't realize players aren't capable of making that play yet though.

    I generally find the critique of McCarthy being stubborn just lazily blaming poor outcomes. But this is where McCarthy's entire hurts. He trusts the system more than anything and in general that is as it should be. Makes it predictable for players to learn, gives backups a shot at contributing, etc.

    But when it ain't working, it ain't working.
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    Is he saying that the offensive line just didn't block for shit, and Boykin didn't catch for shit?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fritz View Post
    Is he saying that the offensive line just didn't block for shit, and Boykin didn't catch for shit?
    I think Boykin yes. I would bet he thinks there were holes to run in but they didn't get the correct read enough by the RB.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fritz View Post
    Is he saying that the offensive line just didn't block for shit, and Boykin didn't catch for shit?
    I'd say that's fair. Also, where is the YAC? It's like Rodgers is throwing to guys in tight coverage, pretty much always who get tackled almost right away. Where is Cobb?
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    Quote Originally Posted by pbmax View Post
    I think Boykin yes. I would bet he thinks there were holes to run in but they didn't get the correct read enough by the RB.

    To me, that's on Lacey and Harris. On one carry Starks saw nowhere to go, so he jammed into the LOS and got about three. That was better than Lacey's losses or Harris's losses. I don't get this trying to get outside when they know what kind of line and linebackers the Lions have.

    Sounds like MM is dropping this one at the players' feet. Hope he's screaming at them right now, and when he gets home his wife screams at him.
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    And again, the Packers receivers take FOREVER and a day to get open. And this against a Lion's secondary that is supposed to be hurting.

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    yeah, they were singularly unimpressive, were they not?
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    Not for nothing, but in the player's red doesn't like department, Burnett had a terrible half assed attempt to stop Bush short of his touchdown. He dived and hit nothing,
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fritz View Post
    To me, that's on Lacey and Harris. On one carry Starks saw nowhere to go, so he jammed into the LOS and got about three. That was better than Lacey's losses or Harris's losses. I don't get this trying to get outside when they know what kind of line and linebackers the Lions have.

    Sounds like MM is dropping this one at the players' feet. Hope he's screaming at them right now, and when he gets home his wife screams at him.
    It was damn clear on the TV and I assume in the booth that Starks could read where the holes were.
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    I wonder what has happened to Lacey? Last year he seemed to have a great feel for the creases and holes, now he's bouncing most everything outside.
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    #Packers RB Eddie Lacy seemed perplexed about run game: "Don't know if I have to be more patient or speed things up."
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    Lions CB Darius Slay: "Our thing was to stop Jordy. We did that and made the other people beat us."
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    Quote Originally Posted by pbmax View Post
    Not for nothing, but in the player's red doesn't like department, Burnett had a terrible half assed attempt to stop Bush short of his touchdown. He dived and hit nothing,
    i think its becoming more and more clear that our 2 best safeties are hyde and Haha.

    they are the future at least

    how bout big props for a safety getting an INT?

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    Quote Originally Posted by denverYooper View Post
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    Lions CB Darius Slay: "Our thing was to stop Jordy. We did that and made the other people beat us."
    Yes, yes they did.

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    Quote Originally Posted by denverYooper View Post
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    #Packers RB Eddie Lacy seemed perplexed about run game: "Don't know if I have to be more patient or speed things up."
    Seemed that Lacy was doing too much east/west running instead of north/south. He is the LAST guy to be dancing around from sideline to sideline. He is the battering ram. If there is even a tiny crease, he should be hitting it and making his own holes.
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    http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/sports/275944591.html

    Quote Originally Posted by Silverstein paraphrasing something or someone:
    And so they [Detroit] protected their injury-decimated secondary, which was on its fifth and sixth cornerback in its nickel package after Don Carey left with a hamstring injury, by playing both safeties deep and wide in zone coverage, letting their corners cover man-to-man, and having their linebackers ignore play-action and take away the middle of the field.
    So let's say TEs are not an option because if they are in they are blocking first and releasing second. The answer to this, if Lacy can't get yardage, was to put Starks in who clearly knew where to go.

    So how was it that he disappeared? That is the question that should be asked this week.
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    I'm no football genius, I'm just old, but I can still see. And what I see for the most part is a very slow Packer team. And this problem seems to be getting worse. So I understand you cannot teach fast/speed, but the Packer coaches sure seem good at teaching slow.

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    It's very difficult for a running back to read the right hole when MM calls the halfback toss 8 times in the game. When a RB is looking at the ball that is being pitched the length of a handoff, he cannot correctly read the gaps because he has to catch the ball. MM loves his stupid halfback toss play that he came up with a few years ago and runs it constantly. MM is to blame for people not finding the right holes, not the RB's.

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    I will agree that Lacy dances too much. He seems to think he can juke guys instead of just plowing through them. This is also on the coaches. You have a clearly confused 2nd year player and who is helping him? Where are the coaches?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pbmax View Post
    http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/sports/275944591.html



    So let's say TEs are not an option because if they are in they are blocking first and releasing second. The answer to this, if Lacy can't get yardage, was to put Starks in who clearly knew where to go.

    So how was it that he disappeared? That is the question that should be asked this week.
    The only answer I can come up with is that Lacy is the best all around RB they have, they like him in pass pro a lot more, and they felt like they'd eventually get opportunities to exploit the Lions secondary for explosive plays. M3 has been fond of referencing the count of explosive plays for vs against this year and it seems that thinking has surfaced in his public analysis lately, even though it's been apparent to Packers fans for 5 years.
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