HOFer
I don't. Their defense was the worst EVER in NFL history last year. You don't solve that in one season.Originally Posted by wist43
5 of their last 7 games are on the road. Teams will stack the box like mad in the second half of the season and force the Cowboys to throw the ball. Romo will start making mistakes. They won't even win 10 games.
It's such a GOOD feeling...13 TIME WORLD CHAMPIONS!!
They lost to Arizona today, but Weeden was brutal... their defense is better than ours, their offense probably about the same - much better running game and OL.
The NFC is wider open than anyone could have imagined, but I still think the heavyweights will round into from by the end of the seaons. Anyone with a good defense can handle us, b/c if our offense is middling, our defense can't hold the fort.
Still, the NFC is very interesting this year... anything can happen, and as I said, Rodgers does give us a punchers chance in every game - we'll see.
wist
Do you truly believe our offense is just middling?
HOFer
It was in the last game, an,d thats what wist is trying to say, and i agree with him.
If our offense isnt playing lights out, our defense isnt good enough (consistantly) to win us those games
Our defense is the anchor holding this team down, and it has been for awhile. Just why this defense is a giant rusting heap of scrap metal pulling us down into the abyss is still up for much debate
Last edited by red; 11-02-2014 at 09:25 PM.
I am amused by both the Rob Ryan love and the Packers' offense is middling theorizing.
Both opinions hinge on one game with a hobbled Rodgers. If that wasn't the case, the analysis is useless.
Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.
However, I think the in-depth analysis that concludes "the Packer defense pretty much sucks" is spot-on.
Sure, they've had moments. But look at where that run defense is ranked. And how are they ranked now in points-per-game?
I just have no faith in this defense, whatsoever.
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KYPack
I'm not sure what to make of this defense. To answer your question, they're now ranked 19th in PPG. 79 of the 191 points they've given up were in their 1st and 8th games. In between, they had a 6 game stretch where they gave up just 18.5 PPG. That would be 3rd in the NFL if you did it all year. So this team has shown signs of being able to play decent defense, but they've also had a couple of major lapses. Halfway through the season, I'm just not sure what to expect from this defense.
I agree. However, both the Cowboys and Saints have hired Rob Ryan to fix the same problem on each of their teams. It hasn't worked out yet.
I still think there is a talent mismatch on the D side of the ball, though they are trying to address it. ILB is still a gaping hole at times and the front three (or four) don't help the weaknesses of the middle 4 (or 2).
However, I still agree with Patler that under the new practice restraints and McCarthy's careful control of team regime, working completely hand in glove is more important than ever. When you had six weeks of camp with 4 weeks of 2 a day and a lot of trading, you could fix things on the fly. Now a days, esp with Thompson's go slow approach with FA, you need a year or more to get a fix in the pipeline.
Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.
IOC
This has been a funny season so far. Who foresaw SF and the seachickens losing to the Rams? Or the Bolts getting shut out by the Dolphins? I was surprised to see NE manhandle the donkeys.
No team stayed undefeated for very long either, Pugger.
Parity is having its way.
When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro ~Hunter S.
No, I think we're an upper tier offense, of course. Rodgers is elite, and our WR's are very good.
That said, we've seen good defenses shut us down; hence, the comment that IF we are middling along in a game - we're in trouble b/c our defense can't carry the day. Is this news to any of you??
wist
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