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Thread: GB gave away its chance to improve run defense

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    Anti Homer Rat HOFer Bretsky's Avatar
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    should have singed Pickett and cut Brad Jones

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    LIFE IS ABOUT CHAMPIONSHIPS; I JUST REALIZED THIS. The MILWAUKEE BUCKS have won the same number of championships over the past 50 years as the Green Bay Packers. Ten years from now, who will have more championships, and who will be the fart in the wind ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bretsky View Post
    should have singed Pickett and cut Brad Jones

    Addition by Addition and addition by subtraction
    You just refuse to believe the evidence of the last three years. Has all of wist's complaining been in vain?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 3irty1 View Post
    I didn't think our guys were worse this year, just different. The guys we have now ought to be able to defend the run on the way to the passer in 1-gap fashion. IMO if you have players that are good at anything, even if they are nearly specialists, a good game plan ought to be able to leverage those strengths and achieve acceptable results against both the run and pass. But when we're equally ineffective at everything like we were against NO, it definitely supports your argument that we have a less talented front 7 this season.
    I can get behind that statement to some extent, but not all the way. We let some good, productive players walk, and Raji got hurt.

    What we're left with is essentially 4-3 personnel, and of course dunderdummy is misusing this incarnation of players - although not as badly as in years past. Playing an elephant is passable with the personnel we have, but not ideal - and there is simply no covering up for how terrible we are at ILB. At least last year we had enough legitimate defensive line talent to cover up for the mess on the second level - but of course dunderdummy shit all over that approach.

    I still like a lot of the players, or at least their potential - we should be better than we are. That said, I think we are now undermanned in the front seven to the point where we'll likely fade badly as the season wears on - we simply don't have the horses to hold up. It isn't that we are getting gashed in the run game b/c we are selling out on the pass - we simply can't defend the run against a stout run blocking offensive line. To be fair, some of that is on the personnel, which is on TT, but most of the responsibility lies with dunderdummy.

    The NFC is weaker than anyone projected, so we still have a punchers chance, but I'd put us behind at least a few teams in terms or our chances. It's likely another wasted season b/c 1265 simply can't get the defense fixed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pbmax View Post
    You just refuse to believe the evidence of the last three years. Has all of wist's complaining been in vain?

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    I love wist as a poster.....but we always end up agreeing to disagree..with Wist setting up Dom for bashing....while in the end I think our failures point more to TT on defense.
    There is no way to use Brad Jones correctly...unless....they just cut his ass or trade him to the Bears...they can even throw in a seventh rounder...just for the Bears taking him
    LIFE IS ABOUT CHAMPIONSHIPS; I JUST REALIZED THIS. The MILWAUKEE BUCKS have won the same number of championships over the past 50 years as the Green Bay Packers. Ten years from now, who will have more championships, and who will be the fart in the wind ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bretsky View Post
    I love wist as a poster.....but we always end up agreeing to disagree..with Wist setting up Dom for bashing....while in the end I think our failures point more to TT on defense.
    There is no way to use Brad Jones correctly...unless....they just cut his ass or trade him to the Bears...they can even throw in a seventh rounder...just for the Bears taking him
    Dump him sure. But replace with Pickett is a proven way not to get better at run defense. And I think the conundrum with the Texans points to why.

    While he has been there, the run D has gotten better. But the pass D and the D overall are no better, if not a little worse.
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