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    Quote Originally Posted by 3irty1 View Post
    I am too but its not inexplicable. We're unbeatable at home. The problem is that this team is eventually going to have to beat a good team outside of Lambeau if they want to hoist the lombardi and there is no evidence that they can do that. Or even be competitive.
    We could if we get HFA throughout.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pbmax View Post
    I am inexplicably confident about this game. I fully expect a win for the Packers.

    I might need to start watching replays of that 2010 game and jab myself with a coat hanger, Colonel Flagg style, after every positive Packer moment to regain some perspective.
    I somehow get to see the New England Patriots play a lot.

    This could be a real dog fight or the Pat's might blow us out. The Packers have to be really up for this home game on both sides of the ball.

    Aaron Rodgers doesn't take a back seat to Tom Brady in the friendly confines of Lambeau Field. Yet Aaron Rodgers has to challenge Darrell Revis (recall the Seahawks and R. Sherman?) and have confidence in whatever WR is covered by him (Jordy Nelson).

    A key to a win is for the Packer pass rush to be effective to win the battle of the clock and rest our 'D'. The defense cannot allow Tom Brady to get into any rhythm. If that's the case we'll be forced to win in a shoot out.

    WR's Brandon LaFell, Julian Edelman and Danny Amendola and watch out for Tim Wright are very solid. Julian Edelman can be scary. All of their WR's are quick and elusive.

    We are in a certain disadvantage at the TE position. Whoever has to cover Gronk has to work his tail off.

    I give our rushing game a slight edge as long as Eddie Lacy is good to go.

    The New England 'D' is solid all over. I give their 'D' the edge.

    I'll add this:

    Rodgers: Packers-Patriots Isn't Me Against Tom Brady

    http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=119...espnapi_public
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    Quote Originally Posted by woodbuck27 View Post
    This should be a real dog fight but in the end our Packers will celebrate victory.
    this sounds like a fortune cookie

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    Quote Originally Posted by Harlan Huckleby View Post
    this sounds like a fortune cookie
    I substituted a short editorial for the fortune cookie.
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    I expect us to win most games... we have the QB, a very good receiving corp, a decent RB, a good (for the most part) offensive play caller in MM; add to that, we have decent talent on the defensive side of the ball.

    For us, it always comes down to 2 factors, 1) dunderdummy, and 2) the OL and whether they can hold up.

    Against good QB's, dunderdummy has admitted that he is afraid of them and he coaches that way, i.e. he plays soft and tries to limit them to 15 yd gains, as opposed to giving up 80 yd TD's. Accompanying that flawed approach, or rather to accomodate that flawed approach, he abandons any notion of playing the run - so we get gashed in the running game too.

    I expect this game will look very much like the New Orleans game. Brees threw for 311 yds and 3 TDs, and they ran for 194 yds.

    No sacks, no INTs.

    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    That's how Dom Capers approaches dealing with elite QB's.

    Is this news to you guys?? Haven't you seen enough embarrassing performances by this idiot to expect that he's likely to do the exact same thing again, and again, and again??

    As for the OL - we were able to run for a couple of first downs at the end of the Viking game, but make no mistake, the Vikings whipped our OL thoroughly yesterday. We have only 3 running plays, and the overall philosophy is very, very passive. Bacteria is a liability, and other than Linsley, who is proving to be a pretty good player, none of them can run block to save their lives.

    It's the nature of our team - and has been for years.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wist43 View Post
    As for the OL - we were able to run for a couple of first downs at the end of the Viking game, but make no mistake, the Vikings whipped our OL thoroughly yesterday.
    There was no whipping of our OL by the Vikes yesterday. The pass protection was quite good and you can dismiss the run blocking all you want, but Lacy averaged 5 ypc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wist43 View Post

    As for the OL - we were able to run for a couple of first downs at the end of the Viking game, but make no mistake, the Vikings whipped our OL thoroughly yesterday. We have only 3 running plays, and the overall philosophy is very, very passive. Bacteria is a liability, and other than Linsley, who is proving to be a pretty good player, none of them can run block to save their lives.

    It's the nature of our team - and has been for years.
    Lacy - 25 for 125 rushing, 1 TD long of 16

    You don't even know when to lay off when you should. The Packer run game was excellent yesterday.

    We had more first downs by rushing than we did passing yesterday.
    But Rodgers leads the league in frumpy expressions and negative body language on the sideline, which makes him, like Josh Allen, a unique double threat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThunderDan View Post
    Lacy - 25 for 125 rushing, 1 TD long of 16

    You don't even know when to lay off when you should. The Packer run game was excellent yesterday.

    We had more first downs by rushing than we did passing yesterday.
    Not to mention Rodgers was sacked once and hit only 1 other time.
    I think Bak is struggling a little bit but it's tough to complain about the OL when they've only given up 2 sacks total the past 2 weeks.
    Philly has 2nd most sacks on year, Minn is T4
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    Looking at the Det-NE game a little closer, a few things popped out:

    1) Detroit actually did a decent job moving the ball in the first half, when the game was still in doubt. Their drives stalled.
    2) NE was even more pass heavy than the final statistics indicate, 10 of their 20 runs were in the 4th quarter.
    3) Detroit did not get any sacks. I can't find information on hurries or QB hits to tell what sort of pressure Brady was under.
    Fire Murphy, Gute, MLF, Barry, Senavich, etc!

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    Quote Originally Posted by MadScientist View Post
    Looking at the Det-NE game a little closer, a few things popped out:

    1) Detroit actually did a decent job moving the ball in the first half, when the game was still in doubt. Their drives stalled.
    2) NE was even more pass heavy than the final statistics indicate, 10 of their 20 runs were in the 4th quarter.
    3) Detroit did not get any sacks. I can't find information on hurries or QB hits to tell what sort of pressure Brady was under.
    Watching the NFL rewind most of Brady's passes were 10 yds or less, just got the ball and threw it, over and over again. Hard to get any pressure.

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    ^^^ I was joking. Denver was beat all to hell in that Rams game. And for the record, I love that Shaun Hill guy. That guy is a QB rock. He gets everything out of the skills he was given. Kinda like Hoyer, but with fewer bad throws.
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    One sure sign the Packers are beating NE: If the announcers say "Rodgers has completions to 9 different receivers today!"
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    McCarthy's Monday Afternoon Disinformation Campaign

    1. Belichick is listening and watching.
    2. When you can lay eyes directly on him, assume he is recording elsewhere.
    3. All helicopters and planes should be treated as potential security leaks
    4. Ask all visitors to Lambeau a security question only they and not Belichick would know (eg. What are Swift and Perry feuding about (ie. not Doug Swift and Michael Dean Perry)? What does it mean to throw shade (ie. not Shady McCoy)? Where is Maroon 5 (not last 5 yards of endzone)?
    5. The cashier at Buger King is a plant.


    Packer Report @PackerReport · 21m 21 minutes ago
    McCarthy: Normal workweek with the Patriots. Assistants did some preliminary game-planning late last week, like always.

    Packer Report @PackerReport · 21m 21 minutes ago
    MM on Thanksgiving: Everything moved up for Thursday morning. Everyone home by 1 p.m.

    Packer Report @PackerReport · 19m 19 minutes ago
    MM on Lacy being ill: Aware before the game. "Fighting through a GI illness." Still monitoring.

    Packer Report @PackerReport · 18m 18 minutes ago
    MM on value of close win: Another experience to draw from. Need that going into playoffs.

    Packer Report @PackerReport · 17m 17 minutes ago
    MM: New England's a great football team. We're not going to make a bunch of changes. We like the football that we are.

    Tyler Dunne ‏@TyDunne 44m44 minutes ago
    McCarthy: "We're not going to get too far away from the yellow pad or too far away from the video screen."

    Packer Report @PackerReport · 16m 16 minutes ago
    MM on GB's offense: Whether it comes through the run or the pass is irrelevant.

    Packer Report @PackerReport · 15m 15 minutes ago
    Gronkowski huge challenge. Big catch radius, faster than people think. "Definitely a difference-maker."

    Packer Report @PackerReport · 13m 13 minutes ago
    McCarthy thought Matthews came out of the OK with groin injury.

    Tyler Dunne ‏@TyDunne 37m37 minutes ago
    McCarthy on if Capers' exp in NWE helps: Have talked, "but nothing I'm relying on to put together a game plan for Sunday."

    Packer Report @PackerReport · 9m 9 minutes ago
    MM on the 2010 game: Not worth watching too much of the film because of different personnel. (Flynn at QB for GB, obviously)

    Packer Report @PackerReport · 8m 8 minutes ago
    And that's all from McCarthy and the start of Patriots Week.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pbmax View Post
    McCarthy's Monday Afternoon Disinformation Campaign

    1. Belichick is listening and watching.
    2. When you can lay eyes directly on him, assume he is recording elsewhere.
    3. All helicopters and planes should be treated as potential security leaks
    4. Ask all visitors to Lambeau a security question only they and not Belichick would know (eg. What are Swift and Perry feuding about (ie. not Doug Swift and Michael Dean Perry)? What does it mean to throw shade (ie. not Shady McCoy)? Where is Maroon 5 (not last 5 yards of endzone)?
    5. The cashier at Buger King is a plant.


    Packer Report @PackerReport · 21m 21 minutes ago
    McCarthy: Normal workweek with the Patriots. Assistants did some preliminary game-planning late last week, like always.

    Packer Report @PackerReport · 21m 21 minutes ago
    MM on Thanksgiving: Everything moved up for Thursday morning. Everyone home by 1 p.m.

    Packer Report @PackerReport · 19m 19 minutes ago
    MM on Lacy being ill: Aware before the game. "Fighting through a GI illness." Still monitoring.

    Packer Report @PackerReport · 18m 18 minutes ago
    MM on value of close win: Another experience to draw from. Need that going into playoffs.

    Packer Report @PackerReport · 17m 17 minutes ago
    MM: New England's a great football team. We're not going to make a bunch of changes. We like the football that we are.

    Tyler Dunne ‏@TyDunne 44m44 minutes ago
    McCarthy: "We're not going to get too far away from the yellow pad or too far away from the video screen."

    Packer Report @PackerReport · 16m 16 minutes ago
    MM on GB's offense: Whether it comes through the run or the pass is irrelevant.

    Packer Report @PackerReport · 15m 15 minutes ago
    Gronkowski huge challenge. Big catch radius, faster than people think. "Definitely a difference-maker."

    Packer Report @PackerReport · 13m 13 minutes ago
    McCarthy thought Matthews came out of the OK with groin injury.

    Tyler Dunne ‏@TyDunne 37m37 minutes ago
    McCarthy on if Capers' exp in NWE helps: Have talked, "but nothing I'm relying on to put together a game plan for Sunday."

    Packer Report @PackerReport · 9m 9 minutes ago
    MM on the 2010 game: Not worth watching too much of the film because of different personnel. (Flynn at QB for GB, obviously)

    Packer Report @PackerReport · 8m 8 minutes ago
    And that's all from McCarthy and the start of Patriots Week.
    The bolded piece above - I can't remember if that is a McCarthy theme that is commonly sounded, or if it's something I remember hearing a lot in 2010 and not much since.
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    IMO the reported spread is about right. Very close game. If the game were at Foxboro, I'd say NE.

    Look at the NE depth chart and compare to the Packers.

    On offense the only NE guy I'd rather have would be Gronk.

    On defense, I'd take the NE guys up the middle...Wilfork and Hightower. Maybe Jamie Collins, he's pretty impressive. Otherwise, our guys are just as good, even considering Revis and Browner.

    Both teams should be up for the game. Green Bay will play with emotion; NE will be supremely confident.

    Please, Stubby, no onsides kicks. No going for it on 4th down from your own territory in the 1st qtr. No challenges until the end of the game. Take what they give you and FIELD POSITION, FIELD POSITION, FIELD POSITION!

    Oh, and Stubby, another 25 carries for Lacy.
    One time Lombardi was disgusted with the team in practice and told them they were going to have to start with the basics. He held up a ball and said: "This is a football." McGee immediately called out, "Stop, coach, you're going too fast," and that gave everyone a laugh.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maxie the Taxi View Post
    Please, Stubby, no onsides kicks. No going for it on 4th down from your own territory in the 1st qtr. No challenges until the end of the game. Take what they give you and FIELD POSITION, FIELD POSITION, FIELD POSITION!
    Playing conservatively against a good/great team like the Patriots is simply asking for a loss.

    The Packers need to be aggressive in all THREE dimensions!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyrion Lannister View Post
    Playing conservatively against a good/great team like the Patriots is simply asking for a loss.

    The Packers need to be aggressive in all THREE dimensions!
    I don't know... that's how the Pats beat people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyrion Lannister View Post
    Playing conservatively against a good/great team like the Patriots is simply asking for a loss.

    The Packers need to be aggressive in all THREE dimensions!
    Since when is NOT kicking onsides playing conservatively? Or punting from your own territory on 4th down? Or taking what they give you?

    I'd like to see us be opportunistic rather than aggressive. You have the opportunity to throw downfield, take it. Don't force it. You have an opportunity fake a field goal or punt, do it. Don't do it just to do it.

    No QB no matter how good likes to play with his back at his own end zone. Field position will help our defense more than anything.
    One time Lombardi was disgusted with the team in practice and told them they were going to have to start with the basics. He held up a ball and said: "This is a football." McGee immediately called out, "Stop, coach, you're going too fast," and that gave everyone a laugh.
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    Key to the Game
    -Tackle the OL that you squib kick to.

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    Key to the Game
    -Tackle the OL that you squib kick to.
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