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    Quote Originally Posted by pbmax View Post
    BTW, I think this is all about Hawk being injured in some fashion.
    Only about 100 people on talk radio have mentioned how slow Hawk looked. I noticed on three different plays where he looked hobbled. I can imagine that Big Mike could want to try and keep it under wraps.

    If he's not injured, he's cooked.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pbmax View Post
    BTW, I think this is all about Hawk being injured in some fashion.
    probably by a disgruntled fan
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    Quote Originally Posted by mraynrand View Post
    great minds think alike
    Not really. You're wasting your great mind fighting for the "other" side.

    End of discussion. I am just gonna leave it at that before Red gets mad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maxie the Taxi View Post
    Brad Jones is the communication helmet guy if Hawk can't go. So one or both of them will be in for every play.
    Geezus, here we go again - Hawk - the indispensable communication man. And Jones is the backup? What about Burnett, who is out there every damn play?
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    Quote Originally Posted by mraynrand View Post
    Geezus, here we go again - Hawk - the indispensable communication man. And Jones is the backup? What about Burnett, who is out there every damn play?
    Why don't we go to flash cards ala Chip Kelly? Better yet, why not just play the 3-3 as Wist suggests ALL THE TIME. Let the players play.
    One time Lombardi was disgusted with the team in practice and told them they were going to have to start with the basics. He held up a ball and said: "This is a football." McGee immediately called out, "Stop, coach, you're going too fast," and that gave everyone a laugh.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyrion Lannister View Post
    Why can't Burnett be that guy? He plays every down, doesn't he?

    Cut Hawk and Jones for all I care.
    Quote Originally Posted by mraynrand View Post
    Geezus, here we go again - Hawk - the indispensable communication man. And Jones is the backup? What about Burnett, who is out there every damn play?
    Burnett has to call coverages and adjustments from the backfield, someone needs to be make call neat the LOS for the LBs and lineman.

    If Burnett held down both jobs, he could never line up deep. I believe Lattimore has had the radio and made calls before when Hawk was injured. He was out there with the short guy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pbmax View Post
    Burnett has to call coverages and adjustments from the backfield, someone needs to be make call neat the LOS for the LBs and lineman.

    If Burnett held down both jobs, he could never line up deep. I believe Lattimore has had the radio and made calls before when Hawk was injured. He was out there with the short guy.
    Radio communication is irrelevant pertaining to post-huddle communications/adjustments, as the NFL goes radio silence after the first 30 seconds or so of the play clock.

    In other words, no reason Burnett can't handle the play call stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyrion Lannister View Post
    Radio communication is irrelevant pertaining to post-huddle communications/adjustments, as the NFL goes radio silence after the first 30 seconds or so of the play clock.

    In other words, no reason Burnett can't handle the play call stuff.
    Coaches often talk through what the opponent is doing until that radio goes out. But the bigger question is: does Burnett make the secondary calls or does Dix have to do some when MB is near the LOS? Because if Dix is trusted then the second radio is perhaps more duplicate than necessary.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyrion Lannister View Post
    Radio communication is irrelevant pertaining to post-huddle communications/adjustments, as the NFL goes radio silence after the first 30 seconds or so of the play clock.

    In other words, no reason Burnett can't handle the play call stuff.
    There are many reasons, "Shutdown".

    Safeties don't wear the radio hat. The only safety I've ever seen with one is Ed Reed. Sure, give the job to the deepest guy who has never done it before.

    That would make a lot of sense.

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    Again, lol... good God again...

    The solution is the 3-3 with Matthews roving. The 3 LB's should be Matthews, Neal, and Peppers.

    Jones and Hawk have no business being on the field ever, but since we're stuck with them and Barrington/Lattimore - I'd rather see Barrington get the occasional look.

    Given that the Pats usually throw a ton of short stuff, and run a lot out of 3 wides, I'd run a lot of 3-3 against them, cheat the safeties up, and double Gronk. I don't fear Edleman or Lefell - let them both have their 6-8 catches, but shut down the run game, make quick tackles on the short throws, and contain Gronk.

    If they did that, we'd have a chance... but I don't think dunderdummy will do any of those things. I fully expect us to get outcoached, and to be lit up big time by Brady.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wist43 View Post
    ...

    If they did that, we'd have a chance... but I don't think dunderdummy will do any of those things. I fully expect us to get outcoached, and to be lit up big time by Brady.
    Just like 2010!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by pbmax View Post
    Just like 2010!!
    He's your guy Max... sex was good in the beginning, so you make excuses for all the beatings he's given you since.

    Battered Fan Syndrome
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    Quote Originally Posted by wist43 View Post
    Given that the Pats usually throw a ton of short stuff, and run a lot out of 3 wides, I'd run a lot of 3-3 against them, cheat the safeties up, and double Gronk. I don't fear Edleman or Lefell - let them both have their 6-8 catches, but shut down the run game, make quick tackles on the short throws, and contain Gronk...
    Who is doubling Gronk in your defense?

    And the Patriots favorite alignment that I have seen this year is double TEs. Amendola hasn't been available for stretches and Wright at TE has come on. They will split one of the TEs out at times.

    Williams has got to cover Edelman. Shields is going to get LaFell.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pbmax View Post
    Who is doubling Gronk in your defense?
    Mathews and Peppers?
    One time Lombardi was disgusted with the team in practice and told them they were going to have to start with the basics. He held up a ball and said: "This is a football." McGee immediately called out, "Stop, coach, you're going too fast," and that gave everyone a laugh.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maxie the Taxi View Post
    Mathews and Peppers?
    So his pass rush is Guion, Daniels, Jones/Boyd and Neal?

    Brady will have all day to let Gronk lose his double team. You can't send both you best pass rushers into coverage unless its 3rd and 38.

    Capers is going to have to mix it up which means Gronk is going to see a lot of different bodies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pbmax View Post
    So his pass rush is Guion, Daniels, Jones/Boyd and Neal?

    Brady will have all day to let Gronk lose his double team. You can't send both you best pass rushers into coverage unless its 3rd and 38.

    Capers is going to have to mix it up which means Gronk is going to see a lot of different bodies.
    Sorry, pb. That was sarcasm. I should have included a smiley face or something.
    One time Lombardi was disgusted with the team in practice and told them they were going to have to start with the basics. He held up a ball and said: "This is a football." McGee immediately called out, "Stop, coach, you're going too fast," and that gave everyone a laugh.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pbmax View Post
    So his pass rush is Guion, Daniels, Jones/Boyd and Neal?

    Brady will have all day to let Gronk lose his double team. You can't send both you best pass rushers into coverage unless its 3rd and 38.

    Capers is going to have to mix it up which means Gronk is going to see a lot of different bodies.
    Your line is going to have a rotation of all those guys - depending on situation.

    If it's either or, you should have Boyd or Guion on the field, along with Daniels and D.Jones/Perry. You've got Neal, Matthews and Peppers standing up.

    If it's clearly a passing situation, your line should be D. Jones, Daniels, and Perry; and the same 3 LB's.

    It's not that complicated - and I have news for ya, there's no rule that says you can't rush 5; nor is there any rule that says you can't play zone underneath, cheat your Safeties up, or double the TE.

    Of course dunderdummy will revert back to his default gameplan against elite QB's which is to play the 2-4, and play softer and softer in coverage. Gronk could have 3 or 4 TD's, and Brady is going to go off. Not to mention the fact that they should run for 150+

    If dunderdummy comes out in a 3-3 nickel, and plays it the way I've outlined, we might-could have a chance; but if he reverts to his nature?? Well, we've seen that show a million times - haven't we??
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    Hasn't Jones always been the best coverage guy among the linebackers?

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    Can you imagine Ray Nitschke being tied to a radio all game long? That thing wouldn't survive the 1st quarter, I guarantee it.
    One time Lombardi was disgusted with the team in practice and told them they were going to have to start with the basics. He held up a ball and said: "This is a football." McGee immediately called out, "Stop, coach, you're going too fast," and that gave everyone a laugh.
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    If the Packers focus TOO much on Gronk, they will get shredded elsewhere. Patsies are gonna run the Tampa Titan at them, hoping he will recreate his former Lambeau Field glory. I'm guessing 200+ rushing yards for the Patsies. They probably still lose though...
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