MVP debate: Who's most deserving? A.Rodgers - JJ Watt - T.Brady - P.Manning - D.Murray?

[Tyrion Lannister]

You are probably right, but it should be JJ Watt. He has been unbelievable. Tackles, sacks, passes defensed, interception TD, offensive TDs; really a remarkable season.

All that for a .500 team. I am sure the Texans could win 7 games without Watt. I doubt the Packers, Broncos, Cowboys and Pats would win 7 games without their MVP candidates.

[woodbuck27]

All that for a .500 team. I am sure the Texans could win 7 games without Watt. I doubt the Packers, Broncos, Cowboys and Pats would win 7 games without their MVP candidates.

That's why the MVP won't be tainted and JJ Watt be the winner.

It's right now Aaron Rodgers MVP to lose and he did a fine job of getting there in Buffalo.

[Tyrion Lannister]

That's why the MVP won't be tainted and JJ Watt be the winner.

It's right now Aaron Rodgers MVP to lose and he did a fine job of getting there in Buffalo.

Might as well switch the M and P in MVP around and call it the Peyton von Manning award. My bucks is on the Manning winning it again.

[Pugger]

Might as well switch the M and P in MVP around and call it the Peyton von Manning award. My bucks is on the Manning winning it again.

Manning hasn't been the front runner in over a month now. If Rodgers doesn't win it then it will probably go to Brady.

[Pugger]

That's why the MVP won't be tainted and JJ Watt be the winner.

It's right now Aaron Rodgers MVP to lose and he did a fine job of getting there in Buffalo.

Tainted because he had a lousy game? Brady and Manning - 2 players also under consideration - have had stinkers this year too.

[woodbuck27]

Tainted because he had a lousy game? Brady and Manning - 2 players also under consideration - have had stinkers this year too.

I believe that today....Aaron Rodgers is the leading MVP candidate.

If he shows up with another 'stinker game' as he certainly had in Buffalo and that with occasional help of his receivers.

He flushes that MVP down the toilet along with the Green Bay Packers 2014 Season.

I believe that Aaron Rodgers will play extremely well Vs Tampa Bay and the Detroit LIONS.

I believe Aaron Rodgers will lead the Green Bay Packers to the NFC NO. 2 Seed.

I believe that Aaron Rodgers then will deserve to receive the NFL MVP Award again.

If all I believe happens:

Aaron Rodgers will be the 2014 NFL MVP.

[mraynrand]

Tainted because he had a lousy game? Brady and Manning - 2 players also under consideration - have had stinkers this year too.

It's how you finish. I wish MVP awards weren't decided until after the entire season is over. I'd like playoff performances to factor into the choice.

[George Cumby]

All that for a .500 team. I am sure the Texans could win 7 games without Watt. I doubt the Packers, Broncos, Cowboys and Pats would win 7 games without their MVP candidates.

Agreed. Reference last season.

[Patler]

Agreed. Reference last season.

There were issues beyond just the fact that Rodgers went down last season. I believe GB would have done better if GB had a backup who was prepared, or if Wallace had not been injured in the first series of his first start, or if Flynn had been there earlier. In short, the problem was that Tolzien was simply not ready to play.

Flynn brought them back to a tie against the Vikings. I think it is entirely plausible they would have won that game if Flynn had played the entire game. Thereafter, Flynn went 2-2. One loss was to Detroit at Detroit, in a game not unlike Rodgers' loss to them this year. The other was against Pittsburgh, when the Packers scored 31, but surrendered 38.

[Striker]

There were issues beyond just the fact that Rodgers went down last season. I believe GB would have done better if GB had a backup who was prepared, or if Wallace had not been injured in the first series of his first start, or if Flynn had been there earlier. In short, the problem was that Tolzien was simply not ready to play.

Flynn brought them back to a tie against the Vikings. I think it is entirely plausible they would have won that game if Flynn had played the entire game. Thereafter, Flynn went 2-2. One loss was to Detroit at Detroit, in a game not unlike Rodgers' loss to them this year. The other was against Pittsburgh, when the Packers scored 31, but surrendered 38.

14 of those points did come off of Flynn turnovers (1 INT returned for a TD, 1 fumble recovered on the Packers 17), but for the most part I agree. Tolzien wasn't quite ready and, more than anything, I don't think they were ready for the possibility of starting the 3rd string QB.

[George Cumby]

There were issues beyond just the fact that Rodgers went down last season. I believe GB would have done better if GB had a backup who was prepared, or if Wallace had not been injured in the first series of his first start, or if Flynn had been there earlier. In short, the problem was that Tolzien was simply not ready to play.

Flynn brought them back to a tie against the Vikings. I think it is entirely plausible they would have won that game if Flynn had played the entire game. Thereafter, Flynn went 2-2. One loss was to Detroit at Detroit, in a game not unlike Rodgers' loss to them this year. The other was against Pittsburgh, when the Packers scored 31, but surrendered 38.

I disagree with none of your factual points. I think it's a matter of definition. What is meant by "most valuable"? PB just hit on it, the term is somewhat anachronistic and may not be relevant to what we are discussing.

[woodbuck27]

The media is all over this:

Add Tony Romo and to some extent Russell Wilson to the NFL MVP conversation.

Might Tony Romo win this award? Discuss.

[Patler]

All that for a .500 team. I am sure the Texans could win 7 games without Watt. I doubt the Packers, Broncos, Cowboys and Pats would win 7 games without their MVP candidates.

So Watt makes no difference at all? They've won 7 with him, and you are "sure" they could win 7 without him? If that were true, no team should ever pay more than minimum to anyone other than their QB.

How did the Patriots do in 2008, when Brady played only part of one game before missing the rest of the season?

[Tyrion Lannister]

So Watt makes no difference at all? They've won 7 with him, and you are "sure" they could win 7 without him? If that were true, no team should ever pay more than minimum to anyone other than their QB.

How did the Patriots do in 2008, when Brady played only part of one game before missing the rest of the season?

That Pats? They missed the playoffs.

Watt is an awesome player and he's having a great season. Would love to see Thompson trade an entire draft for him. Football is the ultimate team game and all that, but you just don't hand over the Heisman to a guy on a losing/mediocre team, not even if he rushed for 5000 yards and 30 TDs for a 0-12 team.

[woodbuck27]

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[woodbuck27]

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