MVP debate: Who's most deserving?
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Our expert panel debates the merits of Rodgers, Murray, Watt, Brady, Manning
MVP debate: Who's most deserving?
http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/12...demarco-murray
Our expert panel debates the merits of Rodgers, Murray, Watt, Brady, Manning
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It is a race between Brady and Rodgers now. If Rodgers leads the Packers to 2 more wins and a bye in the NFC, he's the likely choice.
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You are probably right, but it should be JJ Watt. He has been unbelievable. Tackles, sacks, passes defensed, interception TD, offensive TDs; really a remarkable season.Originally Posted by King Friday
J.J. Watt for MVP !? Well........
He's also 'ALL the HYPE' of late.
I finally got through my recording of the Packers @ Bills and Moses,Jenkins and Aaron (brother of Moses).
If I never watched the NFL games and saw Aaron Rodgers for the first time and someone informed me that he was the leading NFL MVP candidate !
I would be in total disbelief.
He looked anything but on too many levels.
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Man, you definitely can take the pain. I'd rather commit suicide than rewatch that game.
If you need help, let me know.Man, you definitely can take the pain. I'd rather commit suicide than rewatch that game.
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All that for a .500 team. I am sure the Texans could win 7 games without Watt. I doubt the Packers, Broncos, Cowboys and Pats would win 7 games without their MVP candidates.
That's why the MVP won't be tainted and JJ Watt be the winner.
It's right now Aaron Rodgers MVP to lose and he did a fine job of getting there in Buffalo.
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Might as well switch the M and P in MVP around and call it the Peyton von Manning award. My bucks is on the Manning winning it again.
Tainted because he had a lousy game? Brady and Manning - 2 players also under consideration - have had stinkers this year too.
Agreed. Reference last season.
There were issues beyond just the fact that Rodgers went down last season. I believe GB would have done better if GB had a backup who was prepared, or if Wallace had not been injured in the first series of his first start, or if Flynn had been there earlier. In short, the problem was that Tolzien was simply not ready to play.
Flynn brought them back to a tie against the Vikings. I think it is entirely plausible they would have won that game if Flynn had played the entire game. Thereafter, Flynn went 2-2. One loss was to Detroit at Detroit, in a game not unlike Rodgers' loss to them this year. The other was against Pittsburgh, when the Packers scored 31, but surrendered 38.
So Watt makes no difference at all? They've won 7 with him, and you are "sure" they could win 7 without him? If that were true, no team should ever pay more than minimum to anyone other than their QB.
How did the Patriots do in 2008, when Brady played only part of one game before missing the rest of the season?
That Pats? They missed the playoffs.
Watt is an awesome player and he's having a great season. Would love to see Thompson trade an entire draft for him. Football is the ultimate team game and all that, but you just don't hand over the Heisman to a guy on a losing/mediocre team, not even if he rushed for 5000 yards and 30 TDs for a 0-12 team.
Yes, JJ has been great but his wonderful play really hasn't helped his team be any better than mediocre or .500. Usually the MVP winner is on a winning/playoff team.
Maybe they can put him in at QB and get him a few TD throws, too.
And then have him drop-kick a PAT. That'd do it, for sure.
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It really shouldn't be an MVP award. People are used to that by now and perhaps earlier liked the rhyme.
If you want to recognize the best season, regardless of team or position, it has to be Most Outstanding Player. Because no one on the field is more important than the best QBs.
Watt would win the MOP.
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Agreed, which is why, as awarded, it is really an MVQB award. However, I think you can look at value to your team as currently constituted. A team with a lousy QB, or mediocre offense might have a defender, punter or kicker who is extremely valuable to them. Unfortunately, the media influences via popularity.
It's very difficult to make a case against a QB when it comes to the MVP award. Maybe baseball has it right by having a Cy Young and an MVP. There have been a few cases with both going to the same player, but that is only in exceptional situations.
I vote the QB award get named...The Bart Starr Award!
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Imagine for a moment a world without hypothetical situations...
As the top award in college football is named after the great USC Trojans RB, Heisman Trophy, the NFL MVP award should be named "The Manning" or the "P-Mann." Peyton Manning, after all, has won it more times than anyone else.
I vote the QB award get named...The Bart Starr Award!
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