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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyrion Lannister View Post
    As the top award in college football is named after the great USC Trojans RB, Heisman Trophy, the NFL MVP award should be named "The Manning" or the "P-Mann." Peyton Manning, after all, has won it more times than anyone else.
    He has to die first.
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    Quote Originally Posted by woodbuck27 View Post
    He has to die first.
    why? Are you a sadist?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyrion Lannister View Post
    As the top award in college football is named after the great USC Trojans RB, Heisman Trophy, the NFL MVP award should be named "The Manning" or the "P-Mann." Peyton Manning, after all, has won it more times than anyone else.
    Wikipedia:

    Heisman was born in Cleveland, Ohio, the son of Sara (née Lehr) and Johann Michael Heisman.[3]:3–6 He grew up in northwestern Pennsylvania near Titusville, where he played varsity football for Titusville High School in 1884, 1885, and 1886, and was salutatorian of his graduating class.[4] He went on to play football at Brown University (1887–1889)[2] and at the University of Pennsylvania (1890–1891).[5] He graduated from the University of Pennsylvania Law School in 1892.[5]


    Also, Woodbuck might be on to something, the award bearing his name wasn't named that until his death.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyrion Lannister View Post
    As the top award in college football is named after the great USC Trojans RB, Heisman Trophy, the NFL MVP award should be named "The Manning" or the "P-Mann." Peyton Manning, after all, has won it more times than anyone else.
    Tank, stop making up stupid shit, if you can.

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    When was the last time a non QB won the award? It feels like it's pretty much the best teams/one of the best teams QB wins the award.

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    I decided to look since I was curious. It appears AP won the award as an RB in 2012. I completely forgot about that. Here's a list if anyone's interested.

    2013 NFL Peyton Manning Denver Broncos
    2012 NFL Adrian Peterson Minnesota Vikings
    2011 NFL Aaron Rodgers Green Bay Packers
    2010 NFL Tom Brady New England Patriots
    2009 NFL Peyton Manning Indianapolis Colts
    2008 NFL Peyton Manning Indianapolis Colts
    2007 NFL Tom Brady New England Patriots
    2006 NFL LaDainian Tomlinson San Diego Chargers
    2005 NFL Shaun Alexander Seattle Seahawks
    2004 NFL Peyton Manning Indianapolis Colts
    2003 NFL Peyton Manning Indianapolis Colts
    2003 NFL Steve McNair Tennessee Titans
    2002 NFL Rich Gannon Oakland Raiders
    2001 NFL Kurt Warner St. Louis Rams
    2000 NFL Marshall Faulk St. Louis Rams
    1999 NFL Kurt Warner St. Louis Rams
    1998 NFL Terrell Davis Denver Broncos
    1997 NFL Brett Favre Green Bay Packers
    1997 NFL Barry Sanders Detroit Lions
    1996 NFL Brett Favre Green Bay Packers
    1995 NFL Brett Favre Green Bay Packers
    1994 NFL Steve Young San Francisco 49ers
    1993 NFL Emmitt Smith Dallas Cowboys
    1992 NFL Steve Young San Francisco 49ers
    1991 NFL Thurman Thomas Buffalo Bills
    1990 NFL Joe Montana San Francisco 49ers
    1989 NFL Joe Montana San Francisco 49ers
    1988 NFL Boomer Esiason Cincinnati Bengals
    1987 NFL John Elway Denver Broncos
    1986 NFL Lawrence Taylor New York Giants
    1985 NFL Marcus Allen Los Angeles Raiders
    1984 NFL Dan Marino Miami Dolphins
    1983 NFL Joe Theismann Washington Redskins
    1982 NFL Mark Moseley Washington Redskins
    1981 NFL Ken Anderson Cincinnati Bengals
    1980 NFL Brian Sipe Cleveland Browns
    1979 NFL Earl Campbell Houston Oilers
    1978 NFL Terry Bradshaw Pittsburgh Steelers
    1977 NFL Walter Payton Chicago Bears
    1976 NFL Bert Jones Baltimore Colts
    1975 NFL Fran Tarkenton Minnesota Vikings
    1974 NFL Ken Stabler Oakland Raiders
    1973 NFL O.J. Simpson Buffalo Bills
    1972 NFL Larry Brown Washington Redskins
    1971 NFL Alan Page Minnesota Vikings
    1970 NFL John Brodie San Francisco 49ers
    1969 NFL Roman Gabriel Los Angeles Rams
    1968 NFL Earl Morrall Baltimore Colts
    1967 NFL Johnny Unitas Baltimore Colts
    1966 NFL Bart Starr Green Bay Packers
    1965 NFL Jim Brown Cleveland Browns
    1964 NFL Johnny Unitas Baltimore Colts
    1963 NFL Y.A. Tittle New York Giants
    1962 NFL Jim Taylor Green Bay Packers
    1961 NFL Paul Hornung Green Bay Packers
    1960 NFL Norm Van Brocklin Philadelphia Eagles
    1959 NFL Johnny Unitas Baltimore Colts
    1958 NFL Jim Brown Cleveland Browns
    1957 NFL Jim Brown Cleveland Browns

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    Nice idea for the award name Guniness.

    I say give it to JJ Watt. Yeah his team is likely not making the playoffs but they have a chance thanks to him. If that doesnt convince you then maybe his sick dance moves on the cell phone commercial.

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    Rodgers.

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    JJ will get votes, but if Rodgers doesn't crap the bed in the final 2 games, I think he wins. It just won't be a slam dunk.
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    I'd give the MVP to Sherman before Romo, Brady, or Wilson
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    Romo can't get an award that belongs to DeMarco Murray if it goes to a Cowboy. Or the offensive line.
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    Romo has had a nice stretch of games these past few weeks but how can he win the MVP when he isn't even the MVP of his own team? If Rodgers has a nice game, has more than one TD and we win Aaron will win it.

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    I'd go with JJ Watt

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    Quote Originally Posted by Harlan Huckleby View Post
    I'd go with JJ Watt
    and I'll finish your sentence:

    as the Defensive Player of The Year.
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    If Aaron Rodgers and the Packers show up on Sunday... Aaron Rodgers wins the NFL MVP.

    It's 'only' Aaron Rodgers award to lose.

    Everything else that we read and listen to is spin.
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    http://www.nytimes.com/2014/12/24/sp...2014.html?_r=0

    The Envelopes, Maybe: Predicting the 2014 N.F.L. Award Winners

    By: CHASE STUARTDEC. 23, 2014

    " With one game left in the N.F.L. regular season, there is little drama surrounding which players will wind up winning the annual awards.

    Aaron Rodgers, the leader of the Packers’ ruthlessly efficient offense, is likely to be the N.F.L.’s most valuable player.

    He leads the league in Adjusted Net Yards Per Attempt, ranks first in interception rate (1 percent), second in touchdown rate (7.2 percent), and third in net yards per pass attempt (7.57), an across-the-board level of dominance that cannot be matched.

    Green Bay leads all teams in points scored per drive, while the Packers have punted a league-low 48 times. The Packers’ offense is a ruthlessly efficient offensive machine, and Rodgers is the driving force behind the team’s success. "



    Please click on the LINK where the article offers a pick for all of the NFL Awards.


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    The MVP Award votes will get split up with a lot of hype for JJ Watt but in the end Aaron Rodgers will get the most support. A win Vs Detriot will sure go a long way to solidifying that result.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Harlan Huckleby View Post
    I'd go with JJ Watt
    He's a terrific player, but he's not as dominant as he's sold. I've watched a number of their games and the guy disappears for long, long stretches, even with being singled by the O-line.

    I'd take Sherman for DPOY.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Harlan Huckleby View Post
    I'd go with JJ Watt

    Do you think we'd be 11-4 right now if we had JJ and Houston had Rodgers? I submit if Rodgers was the Texans' QB they win that division and are in the playoffs. This is why Watt be the DPOY and not MVP. The MVP isn't always the best player but the one who makes his team great. This is a QB driven league and why the QB wins this award almost all every year lately.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pugger View Post
    Do you think we'd be 11-4 right now if we had JJ and Houston had Rodgers? I submit if Rodgers was the Texans' QB they win that division and are in the playoffs. This is why Watt be the DPOY and not MVP. The MVP isn't always the best player but the one who makes his team great. This is a QB driven league and why the QB wins this award almost all every year lately.
    The Packers will defeat the Lions tomorrow.

    As a result that will be the finishing touch. The NFL MVP will be Aaron Rodgers.
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