what was that?Originally Posted by hoosier
Packers had no success against good defenses, and there was a defensive juggernaut in NFC?
I'm looking at the PAcker shortcomings throughout entire year.
what was that?
Packers had no success against good defenses, and there was a defensive juggernaut in NFC?
I'm looking at the PAcker shortcomings throughout entire year.
The Packers did bounce back from a loss to Detroit late in the 2010 Season to win the Super Bowl.
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In the last 4 games, Seattle has allowed 3, 14, 17 and 6 points.
The Packer offense has not solved physical defenses, especially on road.
From what we know, why should we think that the Packers are more than unlikely to win in Seattle?
I'm not saying a strong showing against Lions proves all. But it goes a way towards showing the Packers are up to bigger task.
And they may get creamed by Detroit this Sunday and go on to win Super Bowl. Anything is possible.
Given the way this season has gone, a solid victory this Sunday means a lot.
That's fair I think. Shit the Packers have a bunch of hurdles to get over before they even get to Seattle. They'll have to get through Detroit and probably Dallas before they get to Seattle. They'll need to get hot and probably catch a couple breaks too against Seattle if they get there. The thing about Seattle is they don't usually give the other team many breaks.
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Packers had a lot of shortcomings in 2010, and were playing with some total scrubs and rookie FAs. They had some rough showings against good defenses, especially after Finley was lost and of course when Rodgers was out. The comparison to Seattle would be the Steelers who were the #1 defense in points allowed and #2 in yards allowed - I think Seattle ranks exactly the same this year.
Of course, every year is different.
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You almost sound........ Optimistic?
In their last 5 games (adding another game where they allowed 3 points) they have also played Drew Stanton, Colin Kaepernick, Mark Sanchez, Colin Kaepernick, and Ryan Lindley.
I would hope they can keep their opponent locked down in those cases.
OK, Striker. Guess Seattle defense ain't much.
That's not what I'm saying. What I think is that they are being overestimated because of the last 5 games, and it's being hailed as a resurgence of their dominance, but look at the level of their competition. They're doing exactly what good/great defenses should do. A lot of Packer fans still remain unconvinced due to the level of who we've played. Yet they don't seem to care as much for Seattle.
Both teams will be tested in the playoffs. Dallas will be tough to slow down.
Last edited by Striker; 12-24-2014 at 04:02 AM.
Where do you rank Seattle's defense in the NFL, and I remind you that you are under oath.
I put them #1.
It's a push between Detroit and Seattle. Both have been winning games for their offense. The big difference being Wilson rarely turns the ball over, while Stafford will go out swinging.
However, are we discussing how good they're looking relative to their competition? Or are we talking about where they're ranked? Because it seems like you're trying to create a completely different argument here compared to what I stated.
They look like they're back to last year's form. They've also played some pretty bad QBs, so you've got to factor that in as well.
Then why did you challenge my posts about Packer prospects by saying Seattle D is overrated?
If Seattle is merely great rather than spectacular, that is still cryptonite to a team stymied by Buffalo & Miami Ds.
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I'm a realist. Packers can most certainly beat Seattle, but they'll need a whole team effort. They can score points, but they'll have to use a lot of different weapons and not get tunnel vision on Nelson and Cobb. Like the NE game. It's just a hard task, especially on the road.
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Harlan, you've lost the thread.
Change the title and the poll to "Who will sit at the bar for the Lions game"?
What does that mean? I expected most people would vote the safe route, comforting themselves with any sort of win against Lions.
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It'd hard to think about that.
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Copy that. Agreed they can win it but will require their best effort.
It's not just that beating Seattle will be hard on road. It will be unlikely. Even if GB plays well, chances are good that Seattle will have it dialed up to 11 too.
I think the point is that the gap is not that big. Seattle's D is probably the best in the league right now, but not as good as the 'have not allowed more than 10 a game in 4 of the last 5' would make it seem.
Buffalo's D, especially their front 7, is quite underrated btw. They are very good. I'm not convinced about their secondary, however.
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