How do you beat the Seahawks?

[vince]

This the article PB?
Good read on Cover 3 principles and how Seattle uses it.

If there's a slot receiver to Sherman's wide side, MAYBE the defender over him can fly off the slot and cover the slant but even that's a stretch because you can either isolate the wideout or the slot receiver can likely engage that defender and hinder his coverage outside. If he does bail to cover the slant, that leaves a nice seam for the slot receiver straight down the hashes.

It perhaps comes down to what others have also said. A quick passing attack with Rodgers in the gun may have some potential against Seattle's relatively vanilla but very effective defense. That could help offset Rodgers' relative immobility as well.

[pbmax]

This the article PB?
Good read on Cover 3 principles and how Seattle uses it.

If there's a slot receiver to Sherman's wide side, MAYBE the defender over him can fly off the slot and cover the slant but even that's a stretch because you can either isolate the wideout or the slot receiver can likely engage that defender and hinder his coverage outside. If he does bail to cover the slant, that leaves a nice seam for the slot receiver straight down the hashes.

It perhaps comes down to what others have also said. A quick passing attack with Rodgers in the gun may have some potential against Seattle's relatively vanilla but very effective defense. That could help offset Rodgers' relative immobility as well.

Nope, this one, though the topics are similar: http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2...ips-film-study

Here is the relevant picture:



My bad. The slant would be defended by either the up safety or the nickel back in that D, not an ILB.

[wist43]

Nope, this one, though the topics are similar: http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2...ips-film-study

Here is the relevant picture:



My bad. The slant would be defended by either the up safety or the nickel back in that D, not an ILB.

Notice all 4 of those defenders in the underneath zone are all within 5 yds of the LOS. It looks like Newton is going to go to the man in flat, which would be the read there, but with everyone facing the play, and within easy closing distance, given the time the ball takes to be delivered, and the back get his vision squared around and begin getting upfield, those underneath guys will have closed on him very quickly.

I think what you have to do against that look is occupy one side with 3 receivers, send 1 deep, and one on a post or skinny post, then drag that back or TE behind that action to the outside. Anything inside, or short will be eaten alive if you don't find a way to occupy or misdirect those underneath zone defenders.

[vince]

I think what you have to do against that look is occupy one side with 3 receivers, send 1 deep, and one on a post or skinny post, then drag that back or TE behind that action to the outside. Anything inside, or short will be eaten alive if you don't find a way to occupy or misdirect those underneath zone defenders.

1 deep would be covered by the deep third corner, the post route runs right into the deep middle defender (unless he can somehow be looked off or is cheating to the top-side which would seem unlikely with your flood concept), and the back/TE going outside underneath runs right into the slot defender no?

[wist43]

1 deep would be covered by the deep third corner, the post route runs right into the deep middle defender (unless he can somehow be looked off or is cheating to the top-side which would seem unlikely with your flood concept), and the back/TE going outside underneath runs right into the slot defender no?

In that look, the corners are turning and running with the outside receivers - so they are out of the play.

The defenders you're trying to influence are the outer most defenders in that underneath zone - whether it be a LB or Chancellor.

If you run 3 receivers on those patterns against that look, the QB will have his choice between the receiver that runs the skinny post - who can sit down if that is the read, or the receiver that is outside and underneath. That puts a lot of pressure on that defender to make a decision - one of the 2 receivers would be open for about a 10 yd gain.

You'd probably need a 5 step drop for that to develop, but they are only rushing 4, so as long as protection held up, that route combination against that defense should give you a decent gain. Hit that a couple of times and they'd adjust, and you'd have to adjust from there... the chess match.

[vince]

Here's what I'm talking about on Sherman and the slants.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap300...s-avoiding-him

First play Sherman's on the short side of the field. Jordy beat Sherman like a red-headed step-child while Sherman turned himself in circles. But the slot is tight and the safety/nickel on that side has the slant covered because there's just not enough space on the short side with the safety/nickel up.

The next play Sherman's on the wide side with a wider slot to occupy the safety/nickel. Boykin didn't work Sherman at the line but the slant woulda been wide open there had he done so.

The safety ran with Cobb that time in what looked like straight 1-high man coverage but if you can beat Sherman inside (I think you can because he protects against his lack of speed by bailing out a bit) it presents a two-on-one matchup if they're in their Cover-3 zone with the safety/nickel and I think Rodgers could abuse that situation standing from the gun with a quick read and throw to the slant or the slot up the seam to eat up some yards. If they're in man then Adams/Nelson can hit the slant while the slot runs the safety off.

Cmon baby get it done Davante!

[wist43]

1 deep would be covered by the deep third corner, the post route runs right into the deep middle defender (unless he can somehow be looked off or is cheating to the top-side which would seem unlikely with your flood concept), and the back/TE going outside underneath runs right into the slot defender no?

Looking at what the Panthers are doing there a little more... the way to look at the still pic would be - instead of running that slot receiver on the crossing pattern, run him at and behind that outer defender who is responsible for the flat. If he doesn't go with the slot receiver, the slot receiver should get the ball, if he does either go with or drift back with the slot receiver, the underneath guy would be the read.

You could even bunch 2 receivers out wide to force the defense to shift... was reading an article last week that talked about bunching receivers against the Seahawks - I think that is something that should be in the gameplan. Force those underneath zone defenders to commit.

I would probably run that route combination with a RB or TE offset, and run him right into the route instead of having him be a safety valve flaring out of the backfield. As it is in that still, that RB is going to receive the ball from Newton, and the defenders will have plenty of time to close on him. That play likely resulted in a very short, or no gain.