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    They've got confidence and the twelfth man and Russell Wilson and a stout D.

    Gonna break their fans little chartreuse hearts when they lose.

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    Datone Jones. Only Packer to get his mitts on Colin Kaepernick when he left the pocket in a hurry. If Seattle pulls Marshawn on passing downs for Turbin, Jones will get in (might also get in to for injured Boyd) and he is long and fast enough to help Peppers chase him down when Matthews flushes him.
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    The Bills defensive line has Mario Williams, Marcell Dareus, and Kyle Williams. The Seahawks don't have any tackles as good as either Kyle Williams or (especially) Dareus, and don't have any linemen to the level of Mario or Dareus in general.

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    Forecast for 50 degrees, light rain 15 mph winds at game time tomorrow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joemailman View Post
    Forecast for 50 degrees, light rain 15 mph winds at game time tomorrow.
    Football weather, for sure!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joemailman View Post
    Forecast for 50 degrees, light rain 15 mph winds at game time tomorrow.
    I doubt 50° will cause Lacy's asthma to act up on him on Sunday so this is a good thing.

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    The Green Bay Packer Defense:

    The Green Bay chance to win will be determined by the quality of the Packer 'D' tomorrow.

    It's essential that we see that defense reduce Seattle's ground game.

    The defense must defend against Russell Wilson running wide of the LOS and gouging for 15-20 yards or more gains.

    The Packer defense must work their butts off and get Marshawn 'Heavy Load' Lynch on the ground pronto. Looking at him run isn't a good strategy. It often takes more than one defender to bring his ass to the turf.

    The secondary cannot play off the Seattle WR's. Forget what you see on paper. The Seattle WR's can get it done.

    Seattle TE Luke Willson is 'a gifted athlete' and has to be accounted for or count on a TD from this guy.



    The Green Bay Packers Offense:

    We need to see something special in the Packers ST's ; or improved punting and kick returning.

    MM must not ask Mason Crosby to try 50+ yard FG's. We need to see MM go for it on 4th and short in the Seattle Red Zone.

    We need to see Randall Cobb set up more than a few times in the Packer backfield.

    We need to see Aaron Rodgers extend drives with a run and short passing game. Keep the Seattle defense on the field and pressured.

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    Quote Originally Posted by woodbuck27 View Post
    The Green Bay Packer Defense:

    The Green Bay chance to win will be determined by the quality of the Packer 'D' tomorrow.

    It's essential that we see that defense reduce Seattle's ground game.

    The defense must defend against Russell Wilson running wide of the LOS and gouging for 15-20 yards or more gains.

    The Packer defense must work their butts off and get Marshawn 'Heavy Load' Lynch on the ground pronto. Looking at him run isn't a good strategy. It often takes more than one defender to bring his ass to the turf.

    The secondary cannot play off the Seattle WR's. Forget what you see on paper. The Seattle WR's can get it done.

    Seattle TE Luke Willson is 'a gifted athlete' and has to be accounted for or count on a TD from this guy.



    The Green Bay Packers Offense:

    We need to see something special in the Packers ST's ; or improved punting and kick returning.

    MM must not ask Mason Crosby to try 50+ yard FG's. We need to see MM go for it on 4th and short in the Seattle Red Zone.

    We need to see Randall Cobb set up more than a few times in the Packer backfield.

    We need to see Aaron Rodgers extend drives with a run and short passing game. Keep the Seattle defense on the field and pressured.

    GO PACKERS !


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    I'm thinking we ought to shitcan the no huddle offense in Seattle if, after the first series or so, the crowd noise makes communication time-consuming and difficult.

    Huddle up. Everyone is on the same page and our TOP goes up. If it were only me, I'd start the game huddling up and move on to the no huddle after the crowd settles down...after our first few TD's.
    One time Lombardi was disgusted with the team in practice and told them they were going to have to start with the basics. He held up a ball and said: "This is a football." McGee immediately called out, "Stop, coach, you're going too fast," and that gave everyone a laugh.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maxie the Taxi View Post
    I'm thinking we ought to shitcan the no huddle offense in Seattle if, after the first series or so, the crowd noise makes communication time-consuming and difficult.

    Huddle up. Everyone is on the same page and our TOP goes up. If it were only me, I'd start the game huddling up and move on to the no huddle after the crowd settles down...after our first few TD's.
    I agree this is a good strategy and especially if we get an early jump.

    I expect the Packers to score very early in tomorrows game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maxie the Taxi View Post
    I'm thinking we ought to shitcan the no huddle offense in Seattle if, after the first series or so, the crowd noise makes communication time-consuming and difficult.

    Huddle up. Everyone is on the same page and our TOP goes up. If it were only me, I'd start the game huddling up and move on to the no huddle after the crowd settles down...after our first few TD's.
    I wouldn't run any no huddle... let them substitute - you know who is going to be on the field against your personnel. If Stubby and staff did their jobs during the week of preparation, then we should be able to handle the subpackages - I think it is more important to have our own shit together, than to try and "trip them up" on personnel or gimmickry.

    They're well coached, and aren't going to be thrown off by no-huddle, and given that the crowd noise is idiotic there, no-huddle would probably cause us more harm than good.
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    No huddle will have its place. Holmgren mentioned wrong footing them by their sub package; passing on first down versus base, running on second down versus pass rush, etc.

    If Rodgers gets one of those sub packages caught facing a Packer sub package that has leverage over it, they should ride it down the field. Especially in the second half.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pbmax View Post
    No huddle will have its place. Holmgren mentioned wrong footing them by their sub package; passing on first down versus base, running on second down versus pass rush, etc.

    If Rodgers gets one of those sub packages caught facing a Packer sub package that has leverage over it, they should ride it down the field. Especially in the second half.
    I'm all for "wrong footing" them - you don't need to go no huddle to do that... all no huddle will do is get us out of sync with all of the crowd noise, and arythmic style that is imposed by their stout defense.

    The no huddle isn't going to fluster them - I'd much rather make sure we have all our ducks in a row on every snap. Minimize the 5 and 7 step drops, don't put all the pressure on our below average Tackles, and dink and dunk them to death. A holding call or sack?? that is the end of that possession.

    Normally I hate getting to 3rd down... I'm not a big fan of playing to get to 3rd and 3, I usually prefer to take shots at 1st downs on every 2nd down - but in this game I won't mind getting into 3rd and 5 or less. I think we can complete short passes against them, we just won't get any RAC. If we're at 3rd and 4, we should be able to dink it for 5 yds, and get down, move the chains.

    I'd feel a lot better about our chances if we had a TE that could threaten the seam, and drag the underneath LB with him and threaten the Safety - but we don't have that anymore.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wist43 View Post
    I'm all for "wrong footing" them - you don't need to go no huddle to do that... all no huddle will do is get us out of sync with all of the crowd noise, and arythmic style that is imposed by their stout defense.

    The no huddle isn't going to fluster them - I'd much rather make sure we have all our ducks in a row on every snap. Minimize the 5 and 7 step drops, don't put all the pressure on our below average Tackles, and dink and dunk them to death. A holding call or sack?? that is the end of that possession.

    Normally I hate getting to 3rd down... I'm not a big fan of playing to get to 3rd and 3, I usually prefer to take shots at 1st downs on every 2nd down - but in this game I won't mind getting into 3rd and 5 or less. I think we can complete short passes against them, we just won't get any RAC. If we're at 3rd and 4, we should be able to dink it for 5 yds, and get down, move the chains.

    I'd feel a lot better about our chances if we had a TE that could threaten the seam, and drag the underneath LB with him and threaten the Safety - but we don't have that anymore.
    I don't consider Bulaga a "below average" O tackle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pugger View Post
    I don't consider Bulaga a "below average" O tackle.
    Average then... certainly don't consider him to be a top-flight RT.

    The Seahawks can flat out bring the pass rush... every drive we have either a sack or a holding penalty will likely spell the end of that drive - therefore I think it critical to gameplan for a possession type of game. I would pass on 1st down a lot - and if that were unsuccessful, I'd look for another short dump off in the short zones to get it to 3rd and 5 or less.

    Perhaps we can run against their subpackages a bit... but I wouldn't be doing that much on 2nd down. If we pass on first down and go incomplete, then run it into the line for NG on 2nd down - that likely spells the end of that drive, same as if we'd had a sack or holding penalty.

    MM needs to have a conservative gameplan IMO, but that is not in his nature - disaster would be a 7 step drop, sack, fumble, and a very short field for the Seahawks at any point in the game.

    We'll see.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wist43 View Post
    Average then... certainly don't consider him to be a top-flight RT.

    The Seahawks can flat out bring the pass rush... every drive we have either a sack or a holding penalty will likely spell the end of that drive - therefore I think it critical to gameplan for a possession type of game. I would pass on 1st down a lot - and if that were unsuccessful, I'd look for another short dump off in the short zones to get it to 3rd and 5 or less.

    Perhaps we can run against their subpackages a bit... but I wouldn't be doing that much on 2nd down. If we pass on first down and go incomplete, then run it into the line for NG on 2nd down - that likely spells the end of that drive, same as if we'd had a sack or holding penalty.

    MM needs to have a conservative gameplan IMO, but that is not in his nature - disaster would be a 7 step drop, sack, fumble, and a very short field for the Seahawks at any point in the game.

    We'll see.
    Bulaga was the second highest ranked RT in the league this year by PFF, who scores every play by every player in every game. Discount that all you want but he still doesn't drop to average.

    Avril had 5 sacks and Bennett 7 - not stellar but they can get pressure. With Rodgers' limited mobility, he oughta be getting the ball out as quick as he needs to because he knows he doesn't want to be holding it and running.

    It'll be real interesting to see if the Packers can keep Rodgers clean in the pocket. If they can't at least be soemwhat effective you can stick a fork in their chances I'd say.

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    I have come to the conclusion that the one handed punch and retreat is Sherman's Cover 3 bail technique.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pbmax View Post
    I have come to the conclusion that the one handed punch and retreat is Sherman's Cover 3 bail technique.
    Makes sense but I can't see how he can defend a slant with that technique.

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