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    THE INTERCEPTION BY BURNETT

    Watched this several times and I'm not seeing what others do

    MB makes a nice pick and slides; it appears 56...Peppers kind of hand motions him to go to ground as he's sliding and jogs to the sideline while he goes down

    But there is a player coming up and inscreen...I think a OL....only a few yds away for the tackle

    He doesn't have nothing but green ahead. It doesn't appear he's going far

    I can't fault him on this
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    I think what bothered me the most is that the mentality of the team went the way of that kneel down. At that point, I think too many Packers thought the game was over.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mraynrand View Post
    I think what bothered me the most is that the mentality of the team went the way of that kneel down. At that point, I think too many Packers thought the game was over.
    Had they just recovered the EASY onside, it was over.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vince View Post
    Had they just recovered the EASY onside, it was over.
    Not necessarily. There was the 2 minute warning and a TO. Packers go three and out and Seattle gets the ball back with 1:20 and no TO's. Based on the 5 minute Packer D, that was enough time to score at least three TDs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mraynrand View Post
    Not necessarily. There was the 2 minute warning and a TO. Packers go three and out and Seattle gets the ball back with 1:20 and no TO's. Based on the 5 minute Packer D, that was enough time to score at least three TDs.
    There was just over 2:00 so I'm pretty sure they only need to run one play to the 2:00 warning. They go run - 2:00 warning, run 1:20, run 0:40, punt deep into Seattle territory with almost no time left. with a timeout there's 30 seconds to go the length of the field into the endzone. That's assuming they gain no yardage on any of those plays.

    If they PASS the ball, there's a really good possibility of much more time left on the clock AND the possibility of Seattle getting the ball in packer territory.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vince View Post
    There was just over 2:00 so I'm pretty sure they only need to run one play to the 2:00 warning. They go run - 2:00 warning, run 1:20, run 0:40, punt deep into Seattle territory with almost no time left. with a timeout there's 30 seconds to go the length of the field into the endzone. That's assuming they gain no yardage on any of those plays.

    If they PASS the ball, there's a really good possibility of much more time left on the clock in addition to the possibility of something really bad happening as well.
    No - 1st down run - 2 minute warning. 2nd down run - TO. 3rd down run, 1:20. Punt. Seattle gets ball, scores on two plays in 25 seconds, onside recovery, TD in 25 seconds, onside recovery, TD in 25 seconds, onside recovery, victory formation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vince View Post
    There was just over 2:00 so I'm pretty sure they only need to run one play to the 2:00 warning. They go run - 2:00 warning, run 1:20, run 0:40, punt deep into Seattle territory with almost no time left. with a timeout there's 30 seconds to go the length of the field into the endzone. That's assuming they gain no yardage on any of those plays.

    If they PASS the ball, there's a really good possibility of much more time left on the clock AND the possibility of Seattle getting the ball in packer territory.
    There was 2:09 left. If we had recovered the onside kick, it would have been another 1 or 2 sec on the clock. One running play would not have taken more than 6 - 7 seconds. Timeout, then the 2 min warming, run play and potentially punting at about the 1:15 mark. They still would have had time, but not much, we still needed a first down to clinch it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mraynrand View Post
    Not necessarily. There was the 2 minute warning and a TO. Packers go three and out and Seattle gets the ball back with 1:20 and no TO's. Based on the 5 minute Packer D, that was enough time to score at least three TDs.
    Ha ha....brutal but true.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vince View Post
    Had they just recovered the EASY onside, it was over.
    Not quite. They were still going to need to run two plays before the 2:00 warning (Seattle uses its last TO after the first play). And then, assuming they run a safe play, Seattle has the ball at its own 20 with 1:10 or so left. So if Bostick either comes down with the ball or just does his job and blocks, the game still hadn't been won.

    The Packers gelled as a team in the second half of the season because they were able to do what they needed to win, especially when it came to closing out games. The 2nd half today, starting with the fake FG where Slocum only dropped one guy back into coverage, and continuing with Quarless's drop, Burnett's early dive, and Bostick pulling a Bill Bucker, and maybe ARod missing an open Cobb, was the total unraveling of that ability to close games. I felt like I was watching Derrick Turnbow out there on the mound in the last four-five minutes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vince View Post
    Had they just recovered the EASY onside, it was over.
    When are you going to get it through your skull that the game WAS NEVER OVER or WON by the Packers at any point? You keep saying this and that would've won the game...and you are always incorrect.

    The game wasn't over...which is why you don't go into prevent defense or "milk the clock" mode and go away from the game plan that put you in position to have a chance to win.
    It's such a GOOD feeling...13 TIME WORLD CHAMPIONS!!

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    I can. He should be able to out manuver a linemen.

    If there was a minute left in the game, absolutely slide.

    Otherwise go for the dagger.

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    I think there were others behind the lineman too
    I'd have run.....but he made a great play there and I can't criticize here
    LIFE IS ABOUT CHAMPIONSHIPS; I JUST REALIZED THIS. The MILWAUKEE BUCKS have won the same number of championships over the past 50 years as the Green Bay Packers. Ten years from now, who will have more championships, and who will be the fart in the wind ?

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    i'm with rand

    he gave up instead of trying for more

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    There wasn't a reason to go down early. But taking a slide instead of a hit was understandable.
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    Hard to say what would have happened. The 2 guys from Seattle I saw between him and the endzone appeared to be linemen. Presumably Russell Wilson would have tried to run him down.

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    The Burnett fetal position was annoying only because it was so symbolic of the attitude of the whole team in the last 8 minutes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Harlan Huckleby View Post
    The Burnett fetal position was annoying only because it was so symbolic of the attitude of the whole team in the last 8 minutes.

    I agree: "I think what bothered me the most is that the mentality of the team went the way of that kneel down. At that point, I think too many Packers thought the game was over."
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    Quote Originally Posted by mraynrand View Post
    I agree: "I think what bothered me the most is that the mentality of the team went the way of that kneel down. At that point, I think too many Packers thought the game was over."
    I miss a lot of your good posts since I put you on my ignore list. Well, lets not go crazy with that "a lot" business.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Harlan Huckleby View Post
    I miss a lot of your good posts since I put you on my ignore list. Well, lets not go crazy with that "a lot" business.
    I took everyone off ignore, because - what's the point. Either I'm gonna see what's here or just leave, even if I hate some fucking posters.
    "Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck

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    Quote Originally Posted by mraynrand View Post
    I took everyone off ignore, because - what's the point. Either I'm gonna see what's here or just leave, even if I hate some fucking posters.
    I don't think there is such a thing as an ignore list. Madtown made a potemkin villiage ignore list for you to mess with you.

    He also made me a "supreme leader level moderator"

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