THE INTERCEPTION BY BURNETT

[mraynrand]

Sorry. I've seen quite a few posters railing on Jones for doing that, and I suspect Jones is only doing what they want him to do. I think the fake succeeded because GB/Slocum was so predictable, especially because Chad Morton is in Seattle with the inside dope on Slocum from his time in GB.

Jones wasn't the guy who let a receiver slip behind him for the TD

[Patler]

Jones wasn't the guy who let a receiver slip behind him for the TD

So you are blaming Hawk?

I think as the play unfolded, Hawk made the right decision, since House was out to lunch on the play and stood there watching Ryan run past him. If Hawk goes with the receiver, Ryan picks up the 1st down easily and probably a lot more. Hawk prevented that and put pressure on Ryan in making the throw. He prevented the run for a first and made the throw more difficult. Therefore he impacted both options Ryan had. At that point, you hope for a bad throw from a punter, a drop by the tackle-elligible receiver, or enough recovery by one of the little, quick guys to get back on the receiver.

House could have done what Hawk did, allowing Hawk to go with the receiver. When he didn't, Hawk tried to make the best out of a quickly deteriorating situation.

[pbmax]

If that is the design, its another in a long line of bad Slocum plans.

[Patler]

If that is the design, its another in a long line of bad Slocum plans.

That's just it. House was on the end, took a few steps at the snap, then stopped standing up as Ryan started to get up. House did nothing until Ryan was well outside of him when he finally turned to follow. Since House clearly was not firing off in an attempt to disrupt the kick, I can only assume he had some responsibility in the event of a fake or botch. Otherwise, he was serving no earthly purpose on the play at all.

MM said he loves Slocum's "creativity". This may be an example of it.

By coming up, Hawk at least forced Ryan to throw. With a punter throwing to a tackle, anything can happen. If Hawk went with the receiver, he was conceding the first down to Ryan by running, because there was no one else close.

[Harlan Huckleby]

If Hawk went with the receiver, he was conceding the first down to Ryan by running, because there was no one else close.

I've watched replay several times, what you are saying is not true. Ryan had long way to go for first and two Packers between him and marker. McGinn watched replay closely too

Hawk was stationed behind the FG block front for his experience, not his athleticism. His mistake — running up on fourth and 10 when the punter couldn't hurt the Packers instead of staying back on the man who could — probably was as egregious as Bostick's.

http://www.jsonline.com/sports/packe...289108751.html

[Patler]

I think as the play unfolded, Hawk made the right decision, since House was out to lunch on the play and stood there watching Ryan run past him.

House could have done what Hawk did, allowing Hawk to go with the receiver.

That's just it. House was on the end, took a few steps at the snap, then stopped standing up as Ryan started to get up. House did nothing until Ryan was well outside of him when he finally turned to follow. Since House clearly was not firing off in an attempt to disrupt the kick, I can only assume he had some responsibility in the event of a fake or botch. Otherwise, he was serving no earthly purpose on the play at all.

I just watched it a couple more times. On the other side, Hayward (I think) was lined up the same as House. Each took only about two steps up field and stopped. The difference was that Hayward kept his feet and shoulders square, House turned his shoulders inward. Hayward was able to turn and run back must faster than House reacted to Ryan right in front of him.

If that is the design, its another in a long line of bad Slocum plans.

Sounds like it was by design, at least according to Daugherty at the Green Bay Press Gazzette. . He saw the same thing I did, House having, and being casual about contain responsibilities on his side, while Bush (I mistakenly said Hayward) played differently and correctly on the opposite side:

House was too casual on Seattle's fake field goal pass for a touchdown. He had outside contain at right end, but he turned the corner and stood. If he'd flared outside after a couple of steps, as Jarrett Bush did on the other side, he would have blown up the fake.

http://www.packersnews.com/story/spo...ired/22141019/

[hoosier]

Not to pick at the scab too much, but for those who didn't really seen the open green in front of Burnett I offer you the full-22 image just after the pick.

[mraynrand]

Not to pick at the scab too much, but for those who didn't really seen the open green in front of Burnett I offer you the full-22 image just after the pick.

no doubt in my mind he at least gets in FG range with even a reasonable run back. Makes the 35 at least.

[Patler]

Not to pick at the scab too much, but for those who didn't really seen the open green in front of Burnett I offer you the full-22 image just after the pick.

Oh my God! Other than the Seahawk lying flat on the ground, is anyone within 20 yards of him?
He had 5 OL and Wilson to beat.

[Bossman641]

I'm with HH. I think House might have tracked down Ryan before he reached the marker. It would have been close. And I understand Hawk was just reacting, but it's a hell of a lot better to give up a first down then leave a guy wide open in the end zone.

[Harlan Huckleby]

And I understand Hawk was just reacting, but it's a hell of a lot better to give up a first down then leave a guy wide open in the end zone.

Hawk's first reaction was to cover the lumbering former TE. You can see it for full second. Then came the Bostick moment and it was, "Run, Forrest, run!" towards Ryan.

[Patler]

I'm with HH. I think House might have tracked down Ryan before he reached the marker. It would have been close. And I understand Hawk was just reacting, but it's a hell of a lot better to give up a first down then leave a guy wide open in the end zone.

House didn't have a chance. He only got even remotely close because Ryan slowed up to collect himself to throw. Had Ryan seen Hawk retreating, he would have kept his head down and run. No way does House catch him if he does that.

I just watched it a couple more times. On the other side, Hayward (I think) was lined up the same as House. Each took only about two steps up field and stopped. The difference was that Hayward kept his feet and shoulders square, House turned his shoulders inward. Hayward was able to turn and run back must faster than House reacted to Ryan right in front of him.

[Bossman641]

House didn't have a chance. He only got even remotely close because Ryan slowed up to collect himself to throw. Had Ryan seen Hawk retreating, he would have kept his head down and run. No way does House catch him if he does that.

I just watched it a couple more times. On the other side, Hayward (I think) was lined up the same as House. Each took only about two steps up field and stopped. The difference was that Hayward kept his feet and shoulders square, House turned his shoulders inward. Hayward was able to turn and run back must faster than House reacted to Ryan right in front of him.

Either House screwed up, or Slocum designed the FG block thinking that teams would only ever roll out right on a fake.

The outside guy on the right (Bush) does a wide rush that would have contained the punter rolling out his way. Richardson (second in line) immediately backs off the LOS at the snap. Compare that to how the other side of the line plays it.
Outside guy on the left (House) makes a hard rush off the edge and then slows up. Jones (second in line) also makes a hard rush off the edge.

I still think House might have caught Ryan. Ryan slows up to gather himself at about the 25, he would have had to run all the way to the 9 to convert.

This link has GIF's from both sides of the field.

http://thebiglead.com/2015/01/18/sea...ensive-tackle/

[LEWCWA]

He coulda scored! fucking dumb.....

[Freak Out]

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[mraynrand]

House has him dead to rights, even if he runs, at the moment Hawk commits.

[Patler]

House has him dead to rights, even if he runs, at the moment Hawk commits.

House has to be significantly faster than Ryan to catch him in a 15 yard race starting flat-footed from well behind. I don't think he is.

[Freak Out]

He has a good shot at picking up some important yards. With a couple of decent blocks on either side of the field he has gained significant yardage. Does he take it all the way? Probably not...but man..try for the short field at least. If he is approaching a wall of defenders fine...slide then.

[Patler]

He has a good shot at picking up some important yards. With a couple of decent blocks on either side of the field he has gained significant yardage. Does he take it all the way? Probably not...but man..try for the short field at least. If he is approaching a wall of defenders fine...slide then.

Especially if Peppers had escorted him toward and down the sideline, instead of pulling out his white flag.

[pbmax]

Ryan had to slow up to twist and get ready to throw. He gets caught by House with that motion before the first down.

If Hawk smothers the receiver and Ryan keeps his head of steam, its going to be close. Ryan runs well and has made tough first downs before.