Another Patriot Scandal??

[Cheesehead Craig]

Comment woodbuck27:

I saw this report on TSN this morning. Getting to the science of Deflate-gate this video covers all that, Did under inflation of the ball in the opening half in any way have any real influence on that game. Even the opposition Indy players say NO. That game pure and simple was about New England dominance.

In any case here is the science of the matter and might prompt the question. Why all the rage let the best play football.:

http://www.tsn.ca/video/sport-scienc...-gate-1.188711

SPORTS SCIENCE: Deflate-gate

The rules are there for a reason. Just because one doesn't like a rule doesn't mean they get to ignore or violate it.

[woodbuck27]

The rules are there for a reason. Just because one doesn't like a rule doesn't mean they get to ignore or violate it.

The point of your post?

[Cheesehead Craig]

The point of your post?

You posted "why all the rage and let the best play football". I gave a response. Pretty straightforward.

[pbmax]

A radio show (certainly not the best source of information) did a test of footballs inflated 2 psi lower than the rec. They said it was easy to detect and easier to squeeze the ball. This make sense to me without doing an experiment on my own.

Advanced NFL Stats has numbers on the incredible non-fumbling of the Patriots on their home turf (not sure how this jives with each team preparing the the footballs for the offense unless the ball deflation operation is conducted in the bowels of the home stadium and not on the sideline).

http://www.sharpfootballanalysis.com/blog/?p=2932

[KYPack]

A radio show (certainly not the best source of information) did a test of footballs inflated 2 psi lower than the rec. They said it was easy to detect and easier to squeeze the ball. This make sense to me without doing an experiment on my own.

Advanced NFL Stats has numbers on the incredible non-fumbling of the Patriots on their home turf (not sure how this jives with each team preparing the the footballs for the offense unless the ball deflation operation is conducted in the bowels of the home stadium and not on the sideline).

http://www.sharpfootballanalysis.com/blog/?p=2932

This is a pretty wicked analysis.

A bit from that article...

The 2014 Patriots were just the 3rd team in the last 25 years to never have lost a fumble at home! The biggest difference between the Patriots and the other 2 teams who did it was that New England ran between 150 and 200 MORE plays this year than those teams did in the years they had zero home fumbles, making the Patriots stand alone in this unique statistic.

[Joemailman]

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...made-no-sense/

Another group based in Pittsburgh that includes brainiacs from Carnegie Mellon (somehow, I was admitted there and graduated with a degree a metallurgical engineering and materials sciences and a degree in engineering and public policy) claims that the conditions of the AFC title game would have caused a significant drop in air pressure.

“We took 12 brand new authentic NFL footballs and exposed them to the different elements they would have experienced throughout the game.” said Thomas Healy, founder of HeadSmart Labs and a masters student in mechanical engineering at Carnegie Mellon. “Out of the twelve footballs we tested, we found that on average, footballs dropped 1.8 PSI when being exposed to dropping temperatures and wet conditions.”

As explained by the group that conducted the simulation: “During testing, twelve brand new footballs were inflated to 12.5 PSI in a 75 degree Fahrenheit room. This was to imitate the indoor conditions where the referees would have tested the footballs 2 hours and 15 minutes before kickoff. The footballs were then moved to a 50 degree Fahrenheit environment to simulate the temperatures that were experienced throughout the game. In addition, the footballs were dampened to replicate the rainy conditions.”

It’s unclear whether the footballs were placed in a wet, 50-degree environment immediately after testing for a full 135 minutes before kickoff or whether they waited until just before kickoff to move the footballs to the simulated game conditions. It’s also unclear whether the various balls were exposed to the same external forces to which a dozen footballs used by an NFL offense would be exposed when rotated through the first half of a game. It’s also unclear whether re-testing of the footballs was done following the precise duration of the first half of the Colts-Patriots game.

[pbmax]

Who keeps a room at 75 degrees?

Also not explained, how did the magic Colts football maintain their pressure?

[Rutnstrut]

Who keeps a room at 75 degrees?

Also not explained, how did the magic Colts football maintain their pressure?

Were the Colts footballs tested? if so were they tested at the same time, in the same manner?

[pbmax]

Were the Colts footballs tested? if so were they tested at the same time, in the same manner?

Measured before, during halftime and after game, so the answer would seem to be yes. But its not explicit.

http://espn.go.com/boston/nfl/story/...mpionship-game

[Pugger]

Were the Colts footballs tested? if so were they tested at the same time, in the same manner?

If the league didn't test the Colts footballs then that is the height of incompetence.

[Cheesehead Craig]

Who keeps a room at 75 degrees?

My grandparents from Nov 1 to May 1.

[woodbuck27]

I'm wondering if that ball is properly inflated?

[Guiness]

In similarly head shaking news, the NFL has decided Lynch's crotch grab is more onerous than rule breaking deflated footballs. If he does it at the SB, 15 yard penalty for the 'obscene' gesture!!! Good thing the NFL is thinking of the children, isn't it?

http://fantasynews.cbssports.com/fan...bscene-gesture

[woodbuck27]

The NFL opened this can of worms and informed us that the proper decisions would be made regarding it in 3-5 days. Suddenly it became the greatest puzzle to solve.

The drama has been far better than any soap.

Bill Belichick chimes in informing us first that he knows 'nothing' about the football and process of properly inflating that football. He's totally oblivious to this matter... knows nothing.

Tom Brady comes on informing us that he would never cheat. You can almost see the halo over his head in that presser.

Then on Saturday the 24th Jan. Bill Belichick is back (what!?) to assist the NFL in it's now overdue investigation. Bill is at his most charming self. He's like the dull Science Teacher who teaches us about what happens when the balls are vigorously rubbed to get the texture that Tom Brady needs to handle game balls. Bill looks like the hero here as he explains Amontons' Law of Pressure-Temperature as that applies to balls over time and changing temperature. In a matter of days Bill Belichick has gone from a man of total ignorance and the NFL ball to a man enlightened as to how complex it all is and well after an embarrassing concentrated time spent on this issue he's much more informed. He's offered the NFL all it needs to slink away from this matter.

The NFL loves all this because the publicity from it is enormous. It's the lead story on major news channels. It's dealt with as a major topic on CNN. Even Saturday Night Live toss's it into their mix as something as it is or really very hilarious. On and on it goes right up to or beyond the Super Bowl game and the winner.

The NFL as the Super Bowl audience very possibly hits a new record.

Who are the villainous stars of all this but bad Ole Bill Belichick and Tom Brady and the fact of the matter is that unless the NFL can come up with admissions of guilt (good luck with that and the Patriots Mob) or video evidence of ball tampering. This issue is dead in the water.

I'm wondering about stuff like this:

Do the New England Patriots drop pass's and have fumbles that are in accordance with the rest of the NFL teams?

[mraynrand]

Bill Belichick chimes in informing us first that he knows 'nothing' about the football and process of properly inflating that football. He's totally oblivious to this matter... knows nothing.

The old Sergeant Shultz defense!

[Guiness]

Saw this headline and thought maybe Brady was admitting something
Tom Brady: I personalized things last week, but I’ve moved past it

But it was just PFT playing word mash.

The actual quote is

I personalized a lot of things and thought this was all about me, and my feelings got hurt. Then I moved past it, because it’s not serving me.

http://itiswhatitis.weei.com/sports/...ot-serving-me/

[woodbuck27]

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap300...room-attendant

FOX Sports: NFL zeroes in on locker-room attendant

By: Marc Sessler ... Around the NFL Writer

Published: Jan. 26, 2015 at 04:40 p.m. ... Updated: Jan. 26, 2015 at 05:36 p.m.

[pbmax]

If they punish a locker-room attendant and don't punish the team, well, soccer is out of the question because its just as corrupt. I guess it will be hockey for me.

[mraynrand]

If they punish a locker-room attendant and don't punish the team, well, soccer is out of the question because its just as corrupt. I guess it will be hockey for me.

don't fuck with the locker-room attendants

[Cheesehead Craig]

If they punish a locker-room attendant and don't punish the team, well, soccer is out of the question because its just as corrupt. I guess it will be hockey for me.

Sean Peyton would like to remind everyone that "ignorance is not an excuse"