Would be nice if the NFC championship caused McCarthy to reevaluate his conservative attitude in the 4th quarter of games.
Would be nice if the NFC championship caused McCarthy to reevaluate his conservative attitude in the 4th quarter of games.
I doubt it, he was right to be conservative in that game with a one legged quarterback that was making poor throws and poor decisions. Now he might want to reevaluate how he is preparing people to execute in late game situations.Originally Posted by smuggler
And who's to say it hasn't?
We'll see this season.
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2013:
@SF: 49ers take a 24-21 lead with 14:21 left. Next Packers and 49ers drives stall. On subsequent drive, Packers drive quickly to score a TD with 8:32 left. 49ers then score on subsequent drive with 5:51 remaining. Packers next drive stalls, and 49ers grind out a long drive capped off by a FG with 0:30 remaining. Subsequent Packers drive runs out of time.
@CIN: After losing a 30-21 lead, Bengals score on a fumble return to take a 34-30 lead. Packers subsequently drive to Bengals 20, where they turn it over on downs, and Bengals run out the clock.
@BAL: Ravens score to cut Packers lead to 2 (19-17) with 2:07 remaining. Packers offense then picks up first downs and runs out the clock.
@CHI: Down 28-27, Rodgers throws long TD pass to take 33-28 lead with 0:46 remaining. Defense holds to close out the game.
Playoffs:
SF: Packers kick FG to tie, 20-20, with 5:09 remaining. 49ers subsequently drive to kick game winning FG at the end of regulation.
Only two or so games in that stretch are due to a Rodgers choke. You can find more from Peyton and Brady easily. Nobody is perfect.
All analysis taken fron th87 posts in this thread>
2009... Post #364
** TB: Bucs take 31-28 lead with 4:20 remaining. Subsequent Packers and Bucs drives stall. On the next Packers drive, on 4th and 12 from their own 11, with 0:52 remaining, Rodgers throws a pick 6, which effectively ends the game.
** Playoffs: AZ: Rodgers throws TD to tie game with 2:00 remaining. Cards drive to GB 16 and miss FG with 0:14 left. Packers receive in OT, and Cards score on a Rodgers fumble return.
2010... Post #365
** WAS: Redskins tie game at 13-13 with 1:11 remaining. Packers drive to WAS 35, where Crosby misses FG. In OT, Packers and Redskins drives stall. On subsequent Packers drive, Rodgers throws INT at GB 39. Redskins drive and kick winning FG.
2013 ... Post #385
** @SF: 49ers take a 24-21 lead with 14:21 left. Next Packers and 49ers drives stall. On subsequent drive, Packers drive quickly to score a TD with 8:32 left. 49ers then score on subsequent drive with 5:51 remaining. Packers next drive stalls, and 49ers grind out a long drive capped off by a FG with 0:30 remaining. Subsequent Packers drive runs out of time. (This loss is shared with Packers 'D')
** @CIN: After losing a 30-21 lead, Bengals score on a fumble return to take a 34-30 lead. Packers subsequently drive to Bengals 20, where they turn it over on downs, and Bengals run out the clock. (most of us remember that one 'the fumble game'.)
2014 ... Post #387
** @BUF: Packers receive the ball with 2:07 remaining, down 19-13. Rodgers then suffers a sack/fumble, resulting in safety, effectively ending the game.
That's then 'only' six games in six seasons that are on ...or 'partially on' Aaron Rodgers and the Packers Offense.
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Based on the "4th Quarter Comeback" game analysis for a Rodgers-led offense, here are the numbers I've come up with:
1. Total opportunities to tie or go ahead:
2008: 8
2009: 6
2010: 5
2011: 1
2012: 7
2013: 4
2014: 4
Total: 35
2. Wins:
2008: 0/8
2009: 2/6
2010: 1/5
2011: 1/1
2012: 3/7
2013: 1/4
2014: 2/4
Total: 10/35
3. Of losses, times tied with a chance to add:
2008: 2/8
2009: 1/6
2010: 2/5
2011: 0/1
2012: 0/7
2013: 0/4
2014: 0/4
Total: 5/35
4. Of losses, times lead taken, lead given up by defense, but still time to win:
2008: 2/8
2009: 0/6
2010: 0/5
2011: 0/1
2012: 1/7
2013: 1/4
2014: 0/4
Total: 4/35
5. Of losses, times lead or tie achieved, but defense gave up lead/tie with no chance to come back:
2008: 0/8
2009: 1/6
2010: 2/5
2011: 0/1
2012: 2/7
2013: 1/4
2014: 1/4
Total: 7/35
6. Times unsuccessful in achieving tie or go-ahead score:
2008: 4/8 (2 missed FGs)
2009: 2/6
2010: 0/5
2011: 0/1
2012: 1/7
2013: 1/4
2014: 1/4
Total: 9/35
I've decided to break "Wins" into the following categories for further context:
1. Wins where an opponent drive was impossible after Packers score (too little time remaining, e.g <1:00):
2008: 0/8
2009: 0/6
2010: 0/5
2011: 1/1
2012: 0/7
2013: 1/4
2014: 1/4
Total: 3/35
2. Wins where only 1 defensive stop preserved the victory after a Packers go-ahead score:
2008: 0/8
2009: 1/6
2010: 0/5
2011: 0/1
2012: 2/7
2013: 0/4
2014: 1/4
Total: 4/35
3. Wins where more than one defensive stop preserved the victory after a Packers go-ahead score:
2008: 0/8
2009: 1/6
2010: 1/5
2011: 0/1
2012: 1/7
2013: 0/4
2014: 0/4
Total: 3/35
So in conclusion, the Rodgers-led Packers are 10-25 in close (one score) games in which they were behind in the 4th quarter.
Of the 25 losses, 7 are truly and completely the defense's fault.
Therefore, of the 25 losses, the Packers had a reasonable chance to win in 18 of them.
So I'd say that Rodgers' adjusted record in close games is 10-18. This is definitely something I'd like to see him improve.
Outstanding effort and analysis here th87:
Repped !
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Thanks Woody!
OK, now do Brady
"Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck
Take it to the Garbage Can.
Then do Manning.
Fire Rodgers!!!!!
So we know that Rodgers is 76-38 as a starter. So in non-close games we are 66-20. That should really point to how good our offense has been over the last 7 years with ARod at the helm.
I already see where your stats are wrong. ARod did lead GB back to a tie in the SEA game so he was 3 of 4 this year. So that makes him 11-17? Who knows? How do you grade that one out? Ugh, I don't want to think about that game any more.
But Rodgers leads the league in frumpy expressions and negative body language on the sideline, which makes him, like Josh Allen, a unique double threat.
-Tim Harmston
That would fall under category 5:
5. Of losses, times lead or tie achieved, but defense gave up lead/tie with no chance to come back:
Losses like this were removed to arrive at the adjustment.
Not wrong.
Last edited by th87; 02-06-2015 at 04:26 PM.
This is true, but we are not discussing this.
If you want to be that way about it, I think this is what this thread is really about.
I think thread drift is allowed.
But Rodgers leads the league in frumpy expressions and negative body language on the sideline, which makes him, like Josh Allen, a unique double threat.
-Tim Harmston
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