ARE WE GIVING AROD A FREE PASS ??????????????????

[denverYooper]

Typically, Rodgers is very rarely late on a throw. The last three games, he was often late. The throw intercepted by Sherman was late. Adams initially gained separation and if the throw had been a tick quicker getting there, Adams probably catches it for a TD. As I recall, the incompletion to R. Rodgers on second down just before the FG to tie was also lust a bit late, allowing the LB to tighten up and dislodge the reception. Throwing windows are small in the NFL, and late throws are caught for no yac, are incomplete, or are intercepted. I think Rodgers timing has been off, because he has been moving cautiously, with plodding steps. His drops and movements are slower, disrupting delicate timing. Lastly, he strides more tentaviley into long throws, and probably has less "drive" on his throws. As a result, his unique accuracy was diminished.

I have to agree with Patler here. Footwork is one of the most important aspects of a QB's timing and rhythm. Rodgers and M3 stress footwork probably more than any coach/QB combo out there as the foundation for a solid passing game. On the road, against what many consider to be the best defense of our generation, Rodgers was dealing with a significant impediment to his style of play.

There have been plenty of playoff games where we can fault Rodgers (San Fran a couple of times, for instance, vs. the Bears in the NFCC the first time, etc) but this is not one.

[MadtownPacker]

Agree with all, his calf was fucked and when he rolled his ankle when he went down showed he was putting his weight on the other leg. I don't have much blame for Rodgers. He has made it obvious he did not like what took place offensively for the Packers throughout the game.

I will say what he held back from saying..

Fucking M3 blew it!!!

[Patler]

I for one don't think we should give AR a free pass, injury or not. He is a highly paid professional, and needs to perform better, injury or not. If he doesn't, he should pay us all. Only then does he get a pass.

FREE pass??? Baloney!!

[woodbuck27]

I for one don't think we should give AR a free pass, injury or not. He is a highly paid professional, and needs to perform better, injury or not. If he doesn't, he should pay us all. Only then does he get a pass.

FREE pass??? Baloney!!

I can't tell if your serious.

I've been thinking about Aaron Rodgers performance in the NFC championship game since that game began.

I have to develop my post.

[woodbuck27]

In the Divisional final Vs Dallas Aaron Rodgers numbers were:

24 of 35 (68.6%) For 316 yards and 3 TD and 0 Picks. His QBR was 125.42

All that sure looked encouraging.


In the NFC Championship his numbers:

19 of 34 (55.8%) For 178 yards and 1 TD and 2 Picks. his QBR was 55.76


He was one more week removed from his original calf injury date. He was given comprehensive treatment and afforded every positive measure for more recovery than we observed Vs Dallas.


Members here want to blame his very poor performance on the wind. His QBR fell of almost 70 Points. It was about 55 Points below his avg. QBR for the season.

What really was going on?

It was a lot more than the calf and the wind that threw him off his game folks.

We may never really know what it really was but damn Aaron Rodgers played poorly in the game vs Seattle.

I would love it if that man could be open and honest. To inform us of the TRUTH.

Do I blame him for the loss. He was just another part of that loss. Except 'he' didn't seem to be having a lot of fun.

Here at Packerrats we have or nearly have anointed Aaron Rodgers as the GREATEST QB in NFL History.

So the way he played on Sunday ...to play so much worse than he did Vs Dallas. Now in a huge game pass the ball as poorly as he did and not help more to bury Seattle in that game. I'm simply blown away by what I saw and terribly disappointed as that game was going and flipped the other way.

Give Aaron Rodgers a FREE PASS?

Are you kidding me. This whole thing really really stinks !

[yetisnowman]

In the Divisional final Vs Dallas Aaron Rodgers numbers were:

24 of 35 (68.6%) For 316 yards and 3 TD and 0 Picks. His QBR was 125.42

All that sure looked encouraging.


In the NFC Championship his numbers:

19 of 34 (55.8%) For 178 yards and 1 TD and 2 Picks. his QBR was 55.76


He was one more week removed from his original calf injury date. He was given comprehensive treatment and afforded every positive measure for more recovery than we observed Vs Dallas.


Members here want to blame his very poor performance on the wind. His QBR fell of almost 70 Points. It was about 55 Points below his avg. QBR for the season.

What really was going on?

It was a lot more than the calf and the wind that threw him off his game folks.

We may never really know what it really was but damn Aaron Rodgers played poorly in the game vs Seattle.

I would love it if that man could be open and honest. To inform us of the TRUTH.

Do I blame him for the loss. He was just another part of that loss. Except 'he' didn't seem to be having a lot of fun.

Here at Packerrats we have or nearly have anointed Aaron Rodgers as the GREATEST QB in NFL History.

So the way he played on Sunday ...to play so much worse than he did Vs Dallas. Now in a huge game pass the ball as poorly as he did and not help more to bury Seattle in that game. I'm simply blown away by what I saw and terribly disappointed as that game was going and flipped the other way.

Give Aaron Rodgers a FREE PASS?

Are you kidding me. This whole thing really really stinks !

This is where the injury excuse immediately loses traction. He had better, more efficient games when his calf was worse. Yes of course his mobility would have come in handy, but come on the guy missed a bunch of throws.
Some he made some he didn't, the ones he didn't were costly. The pick was a really poor throw. Was late and to the inside, essentially making it a jump ball between an all pro and a rookie receiver. Also a play few are talking about, when seattle jumped off early, jordy had is man beat deep and inside and a rod again threw late and short and it was broken up. Should have been a TD or at least a big gain. A lot of his slants were short and the screen passes were sloppy. He choked.....period. The points left on the field were just too much. The defense created 5 turnovers and held a shutout til the 3rd quarter. Wilson with his worst career game as a pro.
Bostick, fake fg, play calling, all that doesn't matter if a rod and the offense is just average. He deserves ample blame.

[ThunderDan]

This is where the injury excuse immediately loses traction. He had better, more efficient games when his calf was worse. Yes of course his mobility would have come in handy, but come on the guy missed a bunch of throws.
Some he made some he didn't, the ones he didn't were costly. The pick was a really poor throw. Was late and to the inside, essentially making it a jump ball between an all pro and a rookie receiver. Also a play few are talking about, when seattle jumped off early, jordy had is man beat deep and inside and a rod again threw late and short and it was broken up. Should have been a TD or at least a big gain. A lot of his slants were short and the screen passes were sloppy. He choked.....period. The points left on the field were just too much. The defense created 5 turnovers and held a shutout til the 3rd quarter. Wilson with his worst career game as a pro.
Bostick, fake fg, play calling, all that doesn't matter if a rod and the offense is just average. He deserves ample blame.

Please tell when ARod learned to be a choker between the 2010 Super Bowl Run and the Conference Championship game this year?

[Patler]

This is where the injury excuse immediately loses traction. He had better, more efficient games when his calf was worse. Yes of course his mobility would have come in handy, but come on the guy missed a bunch of throws.
Some he made some he didn't, the ones he didn't were costly. The pick was a really poor throw. Was late and to the inside, essentially making it a jump ball between an all pro and a rookie receiver. Also a play few are talking about, when seattle jumped off early, jordy had is man beat deep and inside and a rod again threw late and short and it was broken up. Should have been a TD or at least a big gain. A lot of his slants were short and the screen passes were sloppy. He choked.....period. The points left on the field were just too much. The defense created 5 turnovers and held a shutout til the 3rd quarter. Wilson with his worst career game as a pro.
Bostick, fake fg, play calling, all that doesn't matter if a rod and the offense is just average. He deserves ample blame.

Your second sentence negates your entire argument. You have absolutely no way of knowing when his calf was better or worse. In the days leading up to the Seattle game, some reported Packer comments that it was maybe a little better, some that it was no better, and some that it was a little worse. One Dr. who was interviewed said the injury needs almost total rest in order to really heal, and any aggressive use can cause a set back. He said he would expect it to be no better and probably a little worse against Seattle because Rodgers had basically two weeks of rest before Dallas, almost certainly set himself back because of playing the game, and then had only one week of rest before the Seattle game.

Rodgers was not that much better against Dallas, but his results were better. His accuracy has been lacking in all games since the injury. Even against Dallas, his throws were often late and a bit off target. However, many were still completed because Dallas' secondary is now where near as good as Seattles' and their DBs were not there to contest the poorer throws as much. Against better defensive coverage, you can't get away with poor timing and off target throws, against worse coverage you often can.

[Patler]

I for one don't think we should give AR a free pass, injury or not. He is a highly paid professional, and needs to perform better, injury or not. If he doesn't, he should pay us all. Only then does he get a pass.

FREE pass??? Baloney!!

I can't tell if your serious.

Hi Woodbuck.

You can't? Note my reference to "free", the fact he is "highly paid", my call for him to "pay" us before we grant any pass and my final emphasis of the term "free" in the phrase "free pass". I thought it would be obvious I was kidding!

I'm sorry if I confused you!

[woodbuck27]

Hi Woodbuck.

You can't? Note my reference to "free", the fact he is "highly paid", my call for him to "pay" us before we grant any pass and my final emphasis of the term "free" in the phrase "free pass". I thought it would be obvious I was kidding!

I'm sorry if I confused you!

I'll try to be 'not confusing':

Aaron Rodgers was way off his normal style of play and his performance was far removed from what anyone should hope for from the NFL's MVP. He played lights out great Vs Dallas. Where was any semblance of a carry over?

The fact he received the best care and treatment in the week after the Dallas win should have enabled a far superior performance than we witnessed last Sunday in Seattle.

Aaron Rodgers play was a let down of considerable proportion and contributing clearly to the loss of the NFC Championship. I picked Seattle to win that game but I never imagined that Aaron Rodgers could look that bad.

He had little fire until his team fell into the hole. Today I'll watch the game for the third time. I don't believe I'll see much to explain 'his fail' in that game.

[mraynrand]

I'll try to be 'not confusing.'

promise?

[Harlan Huckleby]

I'd settle for 5 minutes with Olivia.

Is that wrong? Just to hold hands and talk.

[Noodle]

I agree (i think) with Blue Dog, no free pass. He didn't play well, missing some critical throws, with the line bustin' their humps to give him plenty of time in the pocket.

One thing about the calf -- it negated the ability to do effective play action from under center. Damn i would have loved to see some play action on the drive after the last pick, with everyone expecting Lacey to run.

[woodbuck27]

The NFL network is replaying the game right now... minus the ton of commercials (I hope).

I erased my original recording after studying it yesterday and this morning.

I'm recording and keeping this one for some time. To study it with different focuses.

[wist43]

He played well enough for us to win... don't think it is even a matter of saying he gets a pass - he doesn't need a pass.

He was playing against the best defense in the league, in a hostile environment, and at less than 100%. He had receivers drop passes, and the 2nd pick wasn't his fault at all - it was Cobb's fault b/c he stopped his route.

This game was lost by the coaching staff - pure and simple.

I'm not freaking out about the FG's early, although I though the playcalling was putrid - even with those lost points, we still had the game won in the 2nd half, had the game won with 5 minutes left in the game - had the game won, if only MM and dunderdummy coach to win, instead of coach not to lose.

Championship game, you have the chance to close them out - you close them out!!! You don't play timid and hope the clock runs out before you luck runs out. MM and dunderdummy were pathetic, absolutely pathetic.

The players deserved better. The fans deserved better.

TT needs to sit down and have a heart to heart with MM, and dunderdummy needs to be fired - but neither of those things will happen. I seriously doubt we can win another SB with this regime in place. 2010 was a fluke.

[HarveyWallbangers]

ARod thought he had a free play and he should have had one. They choked it away, but what he's saying is true.

http://espn.go.com/blog/green-bay-pa...penalty-on-int

[smuggler]

I think the playcalling was worse than Rodgers' play, by far. As far as the interception, offsides is reviewable. So, that, again, falls on McCarthy.

[Packman_26]

I think the playcalling was worse than Rodgers' play, by far. As far as the interception, offsides is reviewable. So, that, again, falls on McCarthy.

I don't ever remember seeing an offside call being reviewed and I can't find anything online that states it is reviewable. If I'm wrong on this please give an example or a link that states otherwise because I'm at a loss.

[Pugger]

I don't ever remember seeing an offside call being reviewed and I can't find anything online that states it is reviewable. If I'm wrong on this please give an example or a link that states otherwise because I'm at a loss.

I checked online just now and I can't find an example where offsides is a reveiwable play.

[wist43]

Like I said, this collapse is entirely on the coaching staff...

We have to give them credit for having us in position to win the game, but in that instance I give more of the credit to the players - but that collapse was just breathtaking, and that is entirely on MM and dunderdummy.

MM has definitely earned the title of choker.