JS ARTICLE "WITH SB IN SIGHT< RODGERS DOES NOT DELIVER

[pbmax]

I don't know the answers to any of those questions, but there is no disputing that an opportunity to win was there, and Rodgers delivered only the tie, which proved to be inadequate.

Which would be about the same conclusion you would draw about the last offensive drive in ANY close game a team loses. Which makes it virtually useless as analysis.

I think, rather than blame the QB for not being the hero in a situation where the leverage is against him (the one thing the Seattle D couldn't do was allow a TD, it was happy with a FG attempt), is why the coach puts his offense in that situation way too often and usually too early.

Players do need to make plays, but far too often the offense and defense have to reverse course in order to prevent what was unlikely just a few drives before.

[Patler]

Which would be about the same conclusion you would draw about the last offensive drive in ANY close game a team loses. Which makes it virtually useless as analysis.

No, it is not useless as analysis. In fact, it is very cut a dried, especially if you subscribe to the theory that QBs make the league, team and coach. They are paid for just those situations.

I think, rather than blame the QB for not being the hero in a situation where the leverage is against him (the one thing the Seattle D couldn't do was allow a TD, it was happy with a FG attempt), is why the coach puts his offense in that situation way too often and usually too early.

Players do need to make plays, but far too often the offense and defense have to reverse course in order to prevent what was unlikely just a few drives before.

No one is BLAMING Rodgers for not coming through; just remarking that as the key player in the most critical situation, he did not deliver. He had the ball in his hand for three consecutive plays and could not gain 10 yards when it was needed the most. I could pass it off like you have, and maybe I should; but for discussion purposes it can not be ignored that he may have made poor decisions in at least two, and maybe all three of the plays.


How about Russell Wilson the two series before, he came through twice when the Packer D could do almost anything but allow TDs. Two separate drives, and they didn't even slow him down.

In many ways, you can ignore everything before that. It all came down to a final drive. some might say he made three successive bad plays, which sealed their fate. In three successive drives in the same situation (perhaps even more dire) Wilson came through again, and again and again.

It's not blame, it's fact. It may not be entirely his fault, but that does not change the fact.

[woodbuck27]

Which would be about the same conclusion you would draw about the last offensive drive in ANY close game a team loses. Which makes it virtually useless as analysis.

I think, rather than blame the QB for not being the hero in a situation where the leverage is against him (the one thing the Seattle D couldn't do was allow a TD, it was happy with a FG attempt), is why the coach puts his offense in that situation way too often and usually too early.

Players do need to make plays, but far too often the offense and defense have to reverse course in order to prevent what was unlikely just a few drives before.

What are you saying pbmax!? The 'Packer Pucker' really harmed Packer Nation. There's no accounting for all the (hopefully temporary damage) it's done to even the best Packer forum posters.

I don't mean insult pbmax but that post reminds me so much of this fella. How he might view your post? :



Foghorn Leghorn Rant!

[pbmax]

What are you saying pbmax!? The 'Packer Pucker' really harmed Packer Nation. There's no accounting for all the (hopefully temporary damage) it's done to even the best Packer forum posters.

I don't mean insult pbmax but that post reminds me so much of this fella. How he might view your post? :

[viddeo]

I have no idea how Foghorn Leghorn views the 4 minute offense, but I have long thought that taking the air completely out of the ball is not an ideal strategy. And that in some games, M3 goes too early to this approach. Even in this game, up by more than one score with under 5 minutes left, the clock isn't everything, even if its the most important thing. Possession still counts.

There is a reason McCarthy quoted those run numbers (hopefully he doesn't view it as suggestions). When you have the lead, the offense tends to run more to bleed clock. There can be value to drain TOs and clock even if you gain no yardage, but it does surrender possession and field position, which are costs to the team with the lead.

[woodbuck27]

I have no idea how Foghorn Leghorn views the 4 minute offense, but I have long thought that taking the air completely out of the ball is not an ideal strategy. And that in some games, M3 goes too early to this approach. Even in this game, up by more than one score with under 5 minutes left, the clock isn't everything, even if its the most important thing. Possession still counts.

There is a reason McCarthy quoted those run numbers (hopefully he doesn't view it as suggestions). When you have the lead, the offense tends to run more to bleed clock. There can be value to drain TOs and clock even if you gain no yardage, but it does surrender possession and field position, which are costs to the team with the lead.

It sure looks to me that with 7:07 remaining in the 4th quarter a decision was made to remove Clay Matthews from the game. For something around 20 minutes 'real time' Clay was on the sidelines and for part of that wearing his Winter toque (2:57 remaining in the 4th Qtr.) that does come off as he's looking mighty concerned with (2:01) remaining in the 4th Qtr.

1-10-GB 35 (2:01) 24-M.Lynch right end to GB 32 for 3 yards (42-M.Burnett).

Two plays later Marshawn Lynch is in the end zone for six...and that followed by:

TWO-POINT CONVERSION ATTEMPT. 3-R.Wilson pass to 82-L.Willson is complete. ATTEMPT SUCCEEDS.

The SCORE Seattle 22 - Green Bay 19.

[mraynrand]

It sure looks to me that with 7:07 remaining in the 4th quarter a decision was made to remove Clay Matthews from the game. For something around 20 minutes 'real time' Clay was on the sidelines and for part of that wearing his Winter toque (2:57 remaining in the 4th Qtr.) that does come off as he's looking mighty concerned with (2:01) remaining in the 4th Qtr.

1-10-GB 35 (2:01) 24-M.Lynch right end to GB 32 for 3 yards (42-M.Burnett).

Two plays later Marshawn Lynch is in the end zone for six...and that followed by:

TWO-POINT CONVERSION ATTEMPT. 3-R.Wilson pass to 82-L.Willson is complete. ATTEMPT SUCCEEDS.

The SCORE Seattle 22 - Green Bay 19.

Where was Rodgers when all this failure was happening? Why didn't he stop it?