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    Quote Originally Posted by mraynrand View Post
    Unless it's the Vikings, Bear, Lions, 49ers, Seahawks (LOL).....etc.....
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    Vikings have claimed former Packers TE Brandon Bostick off waivers.
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    Burn in hell!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by pbmax View Post
    Gary, how cheap enough is cheap enough for Peppers?
    forgot he had a 3 year deal. this year it's a pretty big bite (12m) but the Packers have cap space out the wazoo. get the priorities done, any other FAs done, and see how it settles. would like to see him back but wouldn't be surprised if he was let go.

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    Quote Originally Posted by denverYooper View Post
    Adam Schefter ‏@AdamSchefter 8m8 minutes ago
    Vikings have claimed former Packers TE Brandon Bostick off waivers.

    This dude have any redeeming qualities?

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    Most fans, myself included, need to recalibrate when it comes to what an average NFL salary costs these days. The average salary for a starter who isn't on a rookie contract is over 6 million. Guys like Bush, Hawk, Raji, and Kuhn probably aren't overpaid if they come back.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rastak View Post
    This dude have any redeeming qualities?
    He has the physical ability to play in the NFL. Mental lapses are his achilles heel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 3irty1 View Post
    Most fans, myself included, need to recalibrate when it comes to what an average NFL salary costs these days. The average salary for a starter who isn't on a rookie contract is over 6 million. Guys like Bush, Hawk, Raji, and Kuhn probably aren't overpaid if they come back.
    Hawk would be overpaid because he's not really a starter anymore. He's #22 in salary among ILB's. Brad Jones is #21.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rastak View Post
    This dude have any redeeming qualities?
    What Joe said. If he gets a limited package to run or if he and BridgeOverTroubledWaters work out their own deal, he could be useful.

    But he isn't precise.
    Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gbgary View Post
    forgot he had a 3 year deal. this year it's a pretty big bite (12m) but the Packers have cap space out the wazoo. get the priorities done, any other FAs done, and see how it settles. would like to see him back but wouldn't be surprised if he was let go.
    He makes $9.5M next year, I think he's back.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rastak View Post
    This dude have any redeeming qualities?
    NFL body for sure.

    I'd sign him.

    He will bust his ass to prove he's not a total POS.

    Wouldn't let him near the "hands" team agin, tho.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joemailman View Post
    Hawk would be overpaid because he's not really a starter anymore. He's #22 in salary among ILB's. Brad Jones is #21.
    #22 in salary among ILB's doesn't necessarily mean starter money. Figure about a third of starters in the league are on rookie contracts making an average of 800k. Hawk's 4M or so puts him at the pay rate of a low-end starter high-end backup. Not unreasonable at all for him I think. If he doesn't contribute much that's a good problem to have but I'm anticipating rolling with some combo of rookies and unprovens in that position this year so a steady guy like Hawk is worth it IMO.

    Jones should be delivering pizzas. Actually I don't know if I trust him with that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Guiness View Post
    He makes $9.5M next year, I think he's back.
    but his cap hit is 12m.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gbgary View Post
    but his cap hit is 12m.
    Yes, but the other 2.5 is already spent - it's last season's signing bonus. It costs 9.5M of new money to keep this for 2015.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Guiness View Post
    He makes $9.5M next year, I think he's back.
    Yeah, the number isn't outlandish, and I am not sure how much he would want to reduce it. It jumps $6 mil in base, but his base last year was very low ($1 mil).

    Its mainly the cap hit I think the everyone is speculating about but with a $7.5 mil signing bonus, there was going to be a hit even if he left early in the deal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rastak View Post
    This dude have any redeeming qualities?
    When he first appeared on the scene, reporters said in practice they often confused Bostick and Finley. They looked and ran the same. Same athleticism.

    I read in the last couple days, the reason he never saw the field on offense this year was because he never understood their no-huddle offense. After three seasons with the Packers, he still did not understand their offense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pbmax View Post
    Yeah, the number isn't outlandish, and I am not sure how much he would want to reduce it. It jumps $6 mil in base, but his base last year was very low ($1 mil).

    Its mainly the cap hit I think the everyone is speculating about but with a $7.5 mil signing bonus, there was going to be a hit even if he left early in the deal.
    Another way to look at Peppers is this: Is he worth $7M to keep? That's the difference between his cap number as a player and the dead money ($5M) if he is released.

    Last year, he played for $8.5 million in compensation (7.5 million signing bonus + 1M salary).
    In 2015, his contract will pay him $9.5 million (8.5M salary, 500k workout bonus, 500k roster bonus).

    It's hard to know how much less he would be willing to play for. Some older players have played for very little just to have a shot at the SB. If that motivates Peppers, last season should show him that the Packers will certainly have a good chance to get there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KYPack View Post
    NFL body for sure.

    I'd sign him.

    He will bust his ass to prove he's not a total POS.

    Wouldn't let him near the "hands" team agin, tho.

    I think I'll write that last part down and send it to Winter Park.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rastak View Post
    I think I'll write that last part down and send it to Winter Park.
    If Winter Park doesn't know that already, you're in a whole lot of trouble.
    All hail the Ruler of the Meadow!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rastak View Post
    I think I'll write that last part down and send it to Winter Park.
    Tom Braatz will write you back.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cheesehead Craig View Post
    If Winter Park doesn't know that already, you're in a whole lot of trouble.
    For those that didn't get it, that was a joke......anyway, they apparently do. From the combine today:

    "Zimmer said Bostick is a good athlete who will come in and compete with the guys on the roster. He also said he is a solid special teams player, though he couldn’t resist making a joke when asked about Bostick botching that onside kick in the NFC title game. “We’ll try not to put him on the onside kick team,” Zimmer said"

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