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    Quote Originally Posted by 3irty1 View Post
    That said Perry's not a full-blown bust either. He is way more useful on a football field than McClellan.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 3irty1 View Post
    That said Perry's not a full-blown bust either. He is way more useful on a football field than McClellan.
    Agree with that. I think Perry is actually more sound against the run than Clay and I would not be stunned if Perry/Neal in the lineup helped the run defense as much as Clay in the middle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pbmax View Post
    Agree with that. I think Perry is actually more sound against the run than Clay and I would not be stunned if Perry/Neal in the lineup helped the run defense as much as Clay in the middle.
    Oh it did for sure and I believe thats a reason they reach early for an ILB because they liked what they saw with that package.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 3irty1 View Post
    When a guy runs a 4.5 at 270 lbs, benches 35 reps, jumps 38 inches, and gets drafted in the 1st round what he does in coverage or pursuit is icing on the cake. That man's only path to being considered a success should be what he does one-on-one rushing the passer and all I'm saying is that if you can do that you're a fit anywhere. Perry's game is only worth picking apart because he hasn't become the elite pass rusher you hoped for when you drafted him in the first round. If he was good in pursuit he'd be Shea McClellan and still not worth a first round pick. That said Perry's not a full-blown bust either. He is way more useful on a football field than McClellan.
    I know others picked up on the McClellan comment, but your comment about Perry's measurable and being a fit anywhere vs. the production the team has seen is interesting. Did the Packers have the wrong vision for this guy, and he may have worked out better in another defensive scheme, was his development slowed by all of his injury concerns, or do you think there's another reason he hasn't lived up to his first round projection?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Carolina_Packer View Post
    I know others picked up on the McClellan comment, but your comment about Perry's measurable and being a fit anywhere vs. the production the team has seen is interesting. Did the Packers have the wrong vision for this guy, and he may have worked out better in another defensive scheme, was his development slowed by all of his injury concerns, or do you think there's another reason he hasn't lived up to his first round projection?
    A job as a 4-3 DE would allow him to showcase his strength of setting the edge more regularity and rarely ask him to drop into coverage masking one of his biggest deficiencies. My point was that a 4-3 isn't going to make him any better of a pass rusher though and that's really the only way he can "fit" in any scheme as more than a backup and certainly the only way he could be worth a 1st round draft pick. Shawne Merriman would have benefited from a 4-3 in the exact same ways as Perry but nobody cared about fit because you take elite pass rushers in any mold you can find them.
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    Yep. Perry hasn't reached the heights I hoped he would but he hasn't been a bust either. And of course we always have this...even if it was taken away by a garbage flag.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Bossman641 View Post
    Yep. Perry hasn't reached the heights I hoped he would but he hasn't been a bust either. And of course we always have this...even if it was taken away by a garbage flag.



    helmet to shoulder of a QB is a personal foul in todays NFL

    in fact, hitting the QB too hard at all, is a flag

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    I posted elsewhere that I wonder if Perry has any more ceiling to rise to, or if he is what he is. he is, as 3rty 1 said, a useful player. He seems pretty stout against the run and he can bull rush a pass blocker into a QB, but he doesn't get many sacks and he can't cover his privates.

    I wonder if he's working on a second move. I sometimes wonder if that Reggie swim move would suit him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fritz View Post

    I wonder if he's working on a second move. I sometimes wonder if that Reggie swim move would suit him.
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    That clip is his career in a nutshell. Unblocked, great hit on the QB and a forced fumble. All called back on a penalty.
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    Wasn't that in a preseason game anyway?

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    Quote Originally Posted by smuggler View Post
    Wasn't that in a preseason game anyway?
    Perry's hit on Luck? Nope, week 5, 2012.
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    OTAs and Minicamp Dates, some available to public: all via packers.com

    Offseason workouts for the Packers will begin on April 22, with OTAs slated for May 28-30, June 3-5 and June 10-13. Teams are allowed to conduct a total of 10 OTAs. The mandatory minicamp, which will conclude the offseason program and lead into the final break before training camp, will be from June 17-19. Training camp starts July 26, players report on the 25th.

    Open to the public:
    OTAs on May 29, June 3 and June 10, slated for 11:30 a.m. each day, will be held at Ray Nitschke Field and be open to the public, weather permitting. The three-day mandatory minicamp, slated for June 17-19, also will be at Nitschke Field and open to the public, though the exact schedule for the minicamp has not been announced.
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    Tom Silverstein ‏@TomSilverstein 1m1 minute ago
    It's official: the #Packers did not execute OLB Nick Perry's fifth-year option. He will be a free agent in '16. Not a surprising move.

    Defense of the '11 and '12 drafts comes at a high cost.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pbmax View Post
    Tom Silverstein ‏@TomSilverstein 1m1 minute ago
    It's official: the #Packers did not execute OLB Nick Perry's fifth-year option. He will be a free agent in '16. Not a surprising move.

    Defense of the '11 and '12 drafts comes at a high cost.

    No surprise at all here and a good move by GB
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    the option would have paid nick around 7 million for next season. thats way to much for a guy who is basically a role player on the team. not terrible, but nowhere near a 7 million dollar a year guy

    i would hope he continues to improve and the team resigns him in the 4-5 million dollars a year range

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    Quote Originally Posted by red View Post
    the option would have paid nick around 7 million for next season. thats way to much for a guy who is basically a role player on the team. not terrible, but nowhere near a 7 million dollar a year guy

    i would hope he continues to improve and the team resigns him in the 4-5 million dollars a year range

    4-5 MIL ???
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    The best thing is that the ref with the good angle on the play keeps his flag in his pocket. The ref with no sight angle at all goes right for the zebra tissue...

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    Quote Originally Posted by smuggler View Post
    The best thing is that the ref with the good angle on the play keeps his flag in his pocket. The ref with no sight angle at all goes right for the zebra tissue...
    If you watch the big sideline video, you can see him dip his head and the ref behind that, which is visible from his side, goes for the flag. I wouldn't be surprised if the flag was for that and not the slide up/head forward contact between helmets after the hit.
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