If you could sign only one, would it be Bulaga or Cobb?

[woodbuck27]

GB seems to be able to find WRs whenever they really need one. I'm not suggesting that Cobb would be easy to replace, nor that he can be replaced in kind, but history suggests that the Packers could find someone useful enough that the offense wouldn't be slowed appreciably, even if it would be different.

On the other hand, GB has gone through a long list of OL draft picks and FAs, and only now seem to have a complete group of 5 starters that are adequate. Barclay is coming back from an ACL injury and was mediocre at best before the injury. Tretter is a big question mark at any position, and particularly anywhere but center.

Both players have an injury history, even if Bulaga has missed more games. I don't see a huge difference there.

Since the OL has a profound impact on Rodgers in the passing game, and on the running game regardless, I would still go with Bulaga and be confident that they will find a pass-catcher good enough for the offense to continue at a high level.

I will admit to personal bias, because as many of you know, I consider highly paid WRs to be very much over-valued from a salary cap management perspective.

OK so if it goes your way and Randall Cobb signs with Seattle.

How would that make you feel? Doesn't your stomach turn over just a little bit?

[Cheesehead Craig]

OK so if it goes your way and Randall Cobb signs with Seattle.

How would that make you feel? Doesn't your stomach turn over just a little bit?

Cobb's not signing with Seattle, that's just a scare tactic from you. They have to sign Wilson and Cliff Avril so that's going to eat up a big chunk of their cap that's available and they won't be able to spend the money that it would take to be in Cobb's salary range.

I'm torn on this one as both are very valuable to Rodgers' success. I'm going with Cobb. While they Pack have been able to get WRs, Cobb just seems to know what to do when Rodgers starts moving and just gets open and they are just on the same page. It's hard to find that in a WR. I figure that the Packers can just sign a Badgers OL player any year and lock up the T spot. I don't know why that's so hard for TT to see.

EDIT: I'm just wondering what TT is going to do about 2019. Only Rodgers is signed for that year.

[woodbuck27]

Cobb's not signing with Seattle, that's just a scare tactic from you. They have to sign Wilson and Cliff Avril so that's going to eat up a big chunk of their cap that's available and they won't be able to spend the money that it would take to be in Cobb's salary range.

I'm torn on this one as both are very valuable to Rodgers' success. I'm going with Cobb. While they Pack have been able to get WRs, Cobb just seems to know what to do when Rodgers starts moving and just gets open and they are just on the same page. It's hard to find that in a WR. I figure that the Packers can just sign a Badgers OL player any year and lock up the T spot. I don't know why that's so hard for TT to see.

EDIT: I'm just wondering what TT is going to do about 2019. Only Rodgers is signed for that year.

A scare tactic from me!? Are you serious?

Cliff Avril had 23 Tackles, 5 Sacks and 1 FF.

If I could replace that with Randall Cobb I'm going for it.

[Cheesehead Craig]

A scare tactic from me!? Are you serious?

Cliff Avril had 23 Tackles, 5 Sacks and 1 FF.

If I could replace that with Randall Cobb I'm going for it.

Whoops, I forgot that Avril already got his contract extension about a month ago. Oh, and he's rated in the top 10 in 4-3 DEs in the league. You forgot his 38 QB hurries this season. Incredibly disruptive player.

[woodbuck27]

Whoops, I forgot that Avril already got his contract extension about a month ago. Oh, and he's rated in the top 10 in 4-3 DEs in the league. You forgot his 38 QB hurries this season. Incredibly disruptive player.

Yes any discussion RE the ? and Seattle's Cliff Avril is moot but all the same:

38 QB hurries. It looks like you used ROTOWORLD as your reference. I don't see that Stat. ie on NFL.Com.

Salary-cap space was freed up after the trade of WR Percy Harvin to the NY Jets and Seattle locked up K.J. Wright and Cliff Avril in Dec. 2014.

I feel somehow the Green Bay Packers must keep pace with Seattle. Then again it was Seattle and San Francisco and their wheels fell off last season.

Seattle now has RDE Cliff Avril, LDE Michael Bennett, ROLB K.J. Wright, SS Cam Chancellor, LCB Sherman, and FS Earl Thomas all signed long term.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap300...agents-by-team

Seattle 2015 FA's include RCB Byron Maxwell who may be a priority.

I do understand the importance of the OL and RT and protecting Aaron Rodgers on that side. The fact remains that Randall Cobb is a main hookup for Rodgers and I'll be sad it if he leaves via FA.

[pbmax]

A scare tactic from me!? Are you serious?

Cliff Avril had 23 Tackles, 5 Sacks and 1 FF.

If I could replace that with Randall Cobb I'm going for it.

If you watch Cliff Avril and you only see those numbers, you are missing most of his game.

[woodbuck27]

If you watch Cliff Avril and you only see those numbers, you are missing most of his game.

I'm not missing much on Cliff Avril when I watch Seattle play. I key on him and on several of the Seattle defenders reviewing recordings.

pbmax:

How would you compare Cliff Avril's contribution to the Seattle defense in terms of his pass and run defense?

[pbmax]

I'm not missing much on Cliff Avril when I watch Seattle play. I key on him and on several of the Seattle defenders reviewing recordings.

pbmax:

How would you compare Cliff Avril's contribution to the Seattle defense in terms of his pass and run defense?

With 30+ pressures, he (and Michael Bennet) are their pass rush, and a four man pass rush makes that defense.

[Patler]

OK so if it goes your way and Randall Cobb signs with Seattle.

How would that make you feel? Doesn't your stomach turn over just a little bit?

Not any more so than if Bulaga signs with the Bears.
I really hope they find a way to re-sign both, but if it comes down to one or the other, I want Bulaga in GB.

[woodbuck27]

Not any more so than if Bulaga signs with the Bears.
I really hope they find a way to re-sign both, but if it comes down to one or the other, I want Bulaga in GB.

Randall Cobb on the formidable Seattle Seahawks is much more intimidating that Bryan Bulaga on the weak Chicago Bears.

[Patler]

Randall Cobb on the formidable Seattle Seahawks is much more intimidating that Bryan Bulaga on the weak Chicago Bears.

That may be, but I don't worry about who the other team has, only who "my" team has. Putting myself in the position of a GM (and I have been involved in player procurement for select teams in the past) I never worried about which players anyone else signed, because I can't control that. If we decided not to pursue a player, I never worried about another team that did. No point in it.

[hoosier]

Let's say the Packers would need to offer Cobb $10M/year and Bulaga $9M/year to have a chance of retaining both. I have no clue what that would mean for their salary cap numbers. Does doing that mean they have to let both Williams and House go? Does it jeopardize their ability to re-sign Sitton next year?

[woodbuck27]

That may be, but I don't worry about who the other team has, only who "my" team has. Putting myself in the position of a GM (and I have been involved in player procurement for select teams in the past) I never worried about which players anyone else signed, because I can't control that. If we decided not to pursue a player, I never worried about another team that did. No point in it.

Randall Cobb and Bryan Bulaga are both TT draft picks. Drafted and developed in the Packer system and both have to a more or less extent succeeded. Randal Cobb is a special player and offensive weapon who desires like Bryan Bulaga to remain with the team that drafted him.

We know that based on the past. Ted Thompson (by the channels that exists) will make an offer to them and see how they make out in Free Agency. I see that today TT has some real control and may offer each of these players appreciation. He can choose to make an offer that one/both may very well accept.

TT simply must get in gear and set his priorities..... yesterday. If you were the GM of this team wouldn't you have al that worked out?