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    If you could sign only one, would it be Bulaga or Cobb?

    assume you can sign just one, would you sign Bulaga or Cobb. Some background on how each performed in 2014, and what it might cost to sign them:

    About Bulaga:

    http://www.jsonline.com/sports/packe...290024481.html


    About Cobb:
    http://www.jsonline.com/sports/packe...290025191.html



    Tough choice, but if I could sign only one, I think it would be Bulaga. As they say, it all starts up front.

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    Cobb's ability to get open when Rodgers is under pressure would be sorely missed. More than Bulaga in my opinion. The Packers have some depth on the OL with Barclay coming back, who although not as good as Bulaga is a serviceable RT. And it looks like a pretty good year for OT's in the draft.

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    That one is easy:

    TT has to sign Randall Cobb. He's an ascending flexible multi-talented strong offensive weapon.

    He's arguably headed to being the teams legitimate NO. 1 WR. After him and Jordy Nelson and inspite of the promise Devante Adams showed in a rookie season; we have little guarantee at the position regarding depth.

    The strength of the team is obviously on Offense. Randall Cobb played at a Pro Bowl level.

    As good of a season as RT Bryan Bulaga had in 2014; his past injury history (hip and knee) and missing > 50 % or 27 of 53 of his games 2012-14 is a risk exceeding Randal Cobb's and the question of availability.

    With an either / or question:

    Sign WR Randall Cobb.
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    It really depends on how much they each want. Absent cost, I think having Bulaga is more important to the offense.

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    GB seems to be able to find WRs whenever they really need one. I'm not suggesting that Cobb would be easy to replace, nor that he can be replaced in kind, but history suggests that the Packers could find someone useful enough that the offense wouldn't be slowed appreciably, even if it would be different.

    On the other hand, GB has gone through a long list of OL draft picks and FAs, and only now seem to have a complete group of 5 starters that are adequate. Barclay is coming back from an ACL injury and was mediocre at best before the injury. Tretter is a big question mark at any position, and particularly anywhere but center.

    Both players have an injury history, even if Bulaga has missed more games. I don't see a huge difference there.

    Since the OL has a profound impact on Rodgers in the passing game, and on the running game regardless, I would still go with Bulaga and be confident that they will find a pass-catcher good enough for the offense to continue at a high level.

    I will admit to personal bias, because as many of you know, I consider highly paid WRs to be very much over-valued from a salary cap management perspective.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Patler View Post
    GB seems to be able to find WRs whenever they really need one. I'm not suggesting that Cobb would be easy to replace, nor that he can be replaced in kind, but history suggests that the Packers could find someone useful enough that the offense wouldn't be slowed appreciably, even if it would be different.

    On the other hand, GB has gone through a long list of OL draft picks and FAs, and only now seem to have a complete group of 5 starters that are adequate. Barclay is coming back from an ACL injury and was mediocre at best before the injury. Tretter is a big question mark at any position, and particularly anywhere but center.

    Both players have an injury history, even if Bulaga has missed more games. I don't see a huge difference there.

    Since the OL has a profound impact on Rodgers in the passing game, and on the running game regardless, I would still go with Bulaga and be confident that they will find a pass-catcher good enough for the offense to continue at a high level.

    I will admit to personal bias, because as many of you know, I consider highly paid WRs to be very much over-valued from a salary cap management perspective.
    OK so if it goes your way and Randall Cobb signs with Seattle.

    How would that make you feel? Doesn't your stomach turn over just a little bit?
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    Quote Originally Posted by woodbuck27 View Post
    OK so if it goes your way and Randall Cobb signs with Seattle.

    How would that make you feel? Doesn't your stomach turn over just a little bit?
    Cobb's not signing with Seattle, that's just a scare tactic from you. They have to sign Wilson and Cliff Avril so that's going to eat up a big chunk of their cap that's available and they won't be able to spend the money that it would take to be in Cobb's salary range.

    I'm torn on this one as both are very valuable to Rodgers' success. I'm going with Cobb. While they Pack have been able to get WRs, Cobb just seems to know what to do when Rodgers starts moving and just gets open and they are just on the same page. It's hard to find that in a WR. I figure that the Packers can just sign a Badgers OL player any year and lock up the T spot. I don't know why that's so hard for TT to see.

    EDIT: I'm just wondering what TT is going to do about 2019. Only Rodgers is signed for that year.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cheesehead Craig View Post
    Cobb's not signing with Seattle, that's just a scare tactic from you. They have to sign Wilson and Cliff Avril so that's going to eat up a big chunk of their cap that's available and they won't be able to spend the money that it would take to be in Cobb's salary range.

    I'm torn on this one as both are very valuable to Rodgers' success. I'm going with Cobb. While they Pack have been able to get WRs, Cobb just seems to know what to do when Rodgers starts moving and just gets open and they are just on the same page. It's hard to find that in a WR. I figure that the Packers can just sign a Badgers OL player any year and lock up the T spot. I don't know why that's so hard for TT to see.

    EDIT: I'm just wondering what TT is going to do about 2019. Only Rodgers is signed for that year.
    A scare tactic from me!? Are you serious?

    Cliff Avril had 23 Tackles, 5 Sacks and 1 FF.

    If I could replace that with Randall Cobb I'm going for it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by woodbuck27 View Post
    A scare tactic from me!? Are you serious?

    Cliff Avril had 23 Tackles, 5 Sacks and 1 FF.

    If I could replace that with Randall Cobb I'm going for it.
    Whoops, I forgot that Avril already got his contract extension about a month ago. Oh, and he's rated in the top 10 in 4-3 DEs in the league. You forgot his 38 QB hurries this season. Incredibly disruptive player.
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    Quote Originally Posted by woodbuck27 View Post
    A scare tactic from me!? Are you serious?

    Cliff Avril had 23 Tackles, 5 Sacks and 1 FF.

    If I could replace that with Randall Cobb I'm going for it.
    If you watch Cliff Avril and you only see those numbers, you are missing most of his game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by woodbuck27 View Post
    OK so if it goes your way and Randall Cobb signs with Seattle.

    How would that make you feel? Doesn't your stomach turn over just a little bit?
    Not any more so than if Bulaga signs with the Bears.
    I really hope they find a way to re-sign both, but if it comes down to one or the other, I want Bulaga in GB.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Patler View Post
    Not any more so than if Bulaga signs with the Bears.
    I really hope they find a way to re-sign both, but if it comes down to one or the other, I want Bulaga in GB.
    Randall Cobb on the formidable Seattle Seahawks is much more intimidating that Bryan Bulaga on the weak Chicago Bears.
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    Quote Originally Posted by woodbuck27 View Post
    Randall Cobb on the formidable Seattle Seahawks is much more intimidating that Bryan Bulaga on the weak Chicago Bears.
    That may be, but I don't worry about who the other team has, only who "my" team has. Putting myself in the position of a GM (and I have been involved in player procurement for select teams in the past) I never worried about which players anyone else signed, because I can't control that. If we decided not to pursue a player, I never worried about another team that did. No point in it.

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    Cobb won't do much good if Rodgers doesn't get time for Cobb to get open. Much of his best play occurs when the play is extended.

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    Bulaga's position is more important for the Packers offense, and TT has had a harder time filling it. That said, if they went to the draft for Cobb's replacement it would be at least a year before the replacement was ready to contribute at Cobb's current level. It is possible that a healthy Barclay could replace Bulaga and do an adequate job, but that leaves them awfully thin on the OL. My answer to the OP question is a resounding "yes!"

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    I want Bulaga signed more than Cobb because I'm sick of OL changes every year giving Campen cover when the OL starts off blocking like complete dog shit. No excuses this year.
    Fire Murphy, Gute, MLF, Barry, Senavich, etc!

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    Just as Teddy replaced Greg Jennings with Randall Cobb, and James Jones with Davante Adams, and Jermichael Finley with Richard Rodgers, so he will replace Cobb with Jared Abbrederis or a 4th round draft pick to be named later, like Tyler Lockette of Kansas State.

    In fact, why not continue the trend and let Bulaga go as well? Teddy could easily draft Rob Havenstein in the 4th round and plug him into Bulaga's spot at RT.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maxie the Taxi View Post
    Just as Teddy replaced Greg Jennings with Randall Cobb, and James Jones with Davante Adams, and Jermichael Finley with Richard Rodgers, so he will replace Cobb with Jared Abbrederis or a 4th round draft pick to be named later, like Tyler Lockette of Kansas State.
    But that's not really what TT did. He signed Jennings, Jones, and Finley to deals after their rookie contracts were up. Cobb leaving now would break that mold. Draft & develop. Cobb is hitting his prime, not the TT way to let him walk now. He'll get the deal done.

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    Monday Feb. 09, 2015

    Milwaukee- Wisconsin...Journal Sentinel

    Which Packers free agent should be the team’s top priority?


    Randall Cobb (70%)


    Bryan Bulaga (27%)

    Tramon Williams (1%)

    Someone else (1%)

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    Quote Originally Posted by esoxx View Post
    But that's not really what TT did. He signed Jennings, Jones, and Finley to deals after their rookie contracts were up. Cobb leaving now would break that mold. Draft & develop. Cobb is hitting his prime, not the TT way to let him walk now. He'll get the deal done.
    With the changes that we're now seeing in regards to offense and coaching /play calling. I'll be surprized if TT lets either leave Green Bay. As you posted TT is a draft and develop GM. Both of these players are TT success stories when he's had plenty of failures.

    It's time for Aaron Rodgers and Clay Matthews to help out.To consider what restructuring their contracts will do to keep the Packers strong and to remain in the conversation for a Super Bowl. Take away Randall Cobb or in that case disagree with a representative Packer Nation Poll and you certainly hurt the Packer 'O'.

    Ted Thompson and the Packer Powers should be looking at their quality QB and a five year window. Both of these Packers want to stay in Green Bay. Don't allow Randall Cobb to get away.

    Here's the good news Packerrats.

    Ted Thompson will find a way to sign Randall Cobb unless his price tag goes through the roof exceeding Packer CAP responsibility. Tick tock....the time is soon at hand and Free Agency 30 days away.
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