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    Quote Originally Posted by pbmax View Post
    The first TD wasn't their fault (though several players were out there for the fake).

    Its 19-14 with 2:09 left. Having allowed on TD to Beast Mode is not ideal, but 7 points allowed by the D in a Championship game is a pretty good effort. It only took 7 plays from the Seattle 31 and 3:52 off the clock, so the D did bend quickly. But odd are still WAY in the Packers favor.

    Onside kick gives them a short field and they go through the D like butter, 4 plays 44 seconds.

    In OT, Seattle goes 87 yards (ST had them on their own 13 yard line) in 6 plays.
    The D did NOT collapse. They did exactly what MM wanted them to do. He starts counting possessions anytime he has a certain lead and he changes the way we are playing the game. This has an adverse effect as it puts players into passive mode (sort of like not calling enough running plays does to an OLine.)

    Once they are in that mindset they don't come out of it again (thus the easy scores for Seattle to take the lead and in OT).

    He does it every game which is why we have to sweat onside kicks after having 20+ point leads so often (see Atl).

    I don't mean to say I want MM fired, he is a fantastic coach. He has a weakness and its his desire to milk a clock instead of go for the throat. Players excel when playing downhill. IF...he learns from this, it will be awesome, but if next season we have first half blowouts, and then must cover onside kicks, or make defensive stops to win at the end all season long I would say he didn't learn a damn thing.

    Edit: He did learn that you can't play well outdoors after practicing indoors all week, so there is hope.
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    " He did learn that you can't play well outdoors after practicing indoors all week, so there is hope." Fr. Post #9...bobblehead


    Mike McCarthy's Coaching Resume:

    1987–1988 - Fort Hays State (Graduate assistant)

    1989–1991 - University of Pittsburgh (QB's Coach)

    1992 - University of Pittsburgh ( WR's Coach)

    1993–1994 - Kansas City Chiefs - (Offensive quality control assistant)

    1995–1998 - Kansa City Chiefs (QB's Coach)

    1999 - Green Bay Packers (QB's Coach)

    2000–2004 - New Orleans Saints ( OC)

    2005 - San Francisco 49ers - (OC)

    2006–present Green Bay Packers (Head Coach)


    There's nothing in Mike McCarthy's resume pre Green Bay related to playing DEFENSE.

    How long does it take to teach one the things you should know by the time you reach University level by simply participating in sports?

    How long does it take for common sense to sink in; especially when your coaching at a Pro level !?

    How long does it take to realize that winning big takes real toughness and desire to 'just win'? That no part of that is spelled 'FUN'?

    How long does it take to know that after every season growth does come from honest and tough evaluation and resultant change? There's little gain in any evaluation process without making actual changes.

    Mike McCarthy's growth curve doesn't seem steep enough for me. This man moves very very slow. Obviously and as a result he grows slowly.

    From a fans perspective:

    The loser as a result will be Green Bay Packer fans hoping for more than NFCN Championships.
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    Quote Originally Posted by woodbuck27 View Post

    There's nothing in Mike McCarthy's resume pre Green Bay related to playing DEFENSE.
    Offenses scheme against defenses, not the air. They kinda understand defenses. It's part of the job.

    How long does it take to realize that winning big takes real toughness and desire to 'just win'? That no part of that is spelled 'FUN'?
    Can't some of it be fun?
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    Quote Originally Posted by mraynrand View Post
    Offenses scheme against defenses, not the air. They kinda understand defenses. It's part of the job.



    Can't some of it be fun?
    The fun can start once your opponent realizes they are beaten, their body language changes, and they submit - not with 4:00 minutes left in a game that is within 2 scores.

    MM and Capers, by nature, are not aggressive, finish their opponent off coaches. Every once in a while MM might show some guts, but Capers is a skirt-wearing pussy - always has been, always will be.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wist43 View Post
    The fun can start once your opponent realizes they are beaten, their body language changes, and they submit - not with 4:00 minutes left in a game that is within 2 scores.

    MM and Capers, by nature, are not aggressive, finish their opponent off coaches. Every once in a while MM might show some guts, but Capers is a skirt-wearing pussy - always has been, always will be.
    "...not with 4:00 minutes left in a game that is within 2 scores. ..." wist43

    actually the Morgan Burnett "pick - step - step >>> slide" and ensueing onfield and sideline celebration was with 5:04 remaining.

    I was watching that and saying to myself. What are they doing !? There was way too much time on the clock.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wist43 View Post
    The fun can start once your opponent realizes they are beaten, their body language changes, and they submit - not with 4:00 minutes left in a game that is within 2 scores.
    I enjoyed 55 minutes of the game, and then the tying drive. I guess I'm a cheap date.
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