Official Randall Cobb FA Thread

[oldbutnotdeadyet]

First, let me make the following clear:
- I fully expect they will re-sign Cobb, unless he gets a massive deal somewhere.
- I want them to re-sign Cobb.

That said, I don't think all is lost if he goes elsewhere. Much of what I am hearing about Cobb being irreplaceable I heard about Walker when he was holding out, Driver when his contracts were due and when he was aging, Jennings when hiis future was debated for two years, Finley when his contract was up and when his future became doubtful and Nelson when his contract was due. To a lesser degree, there was worry about Jones departure. Now it's Cobb's turn.

I think reality is that they don't need to replace anyone, they simple reformulate a bit to take advantage of what the next guy in line has to offer.

If Cobb were to leave, I think the offense would be fine with Adams. Rodgers II could step forward at TE ("Q" is what he is at this point). With a possible return to form by Boykin (perhaps unlikely), and/or steps up by Abbrederis or Janis and another likely draft pick or two at WR and/or TE, they will be fine. Sure, each and every one is indefinite, but they don't need all of them to blossom, just one or two.

I don't want them to lose Cobb, but I will not anguish over it if they do; nor will my expectations for the upcoming season go down because of it.

I agree. Packers don't seem to have problems finding wide receivers. No sense busting the bank to sign Cobb. Do I want to keep him, sure, but I would rather see the money go to higher needs on the team. It will be super bowl next year so you do what ya gotta do...

[Bretsky]

First, let me make the following clear:
- I fully expect they will re-sign Cobb, unless he gets a massive deal somewhere.
- I want them to re-sign Cobb.

That said, I don't think all is lost if he goes elsewhere. Much of what I am hearing about Cobb being irreplaceable I heard about Walker when he was holding out, Driver when his contracts were due and when he was aging, Jennings when hiis future was debated for two years, Finley when his contract was up and when his future became doubtful and Nelson when his contract was due. To a lesser degree, there was worry about Jones departure. Now it's Cobb's turn.

I think reality is that they don't need to replace anyone, they simple reformulate a bit to take advantage of what the next guy in line has to offer.

If Cobb were to leave, I think the offense would be fine with Adams. Rodgers II could step forward at TE ("Q" is what he is at this point). With a possible return to form by Boykin (perhaps unlikely), and/or steps up by Abbrederis or Janis and another likely draft pick or two at WR and/or TE, they will be fine. Sure, each and every one is indefinite, but they don't need all of them to blossom, just one or two.

I don't want them to lose Cobb, but I will not anguish over it if they do; nor will my expectations for the upcoming season go down because of it.

I don't see any threat at all in Rodgers and Q is a J.A.G.; losing Cobb to me would be huge. We'd actually need to count on a Fresno State guy !

[vince]

I think I read somewhere that Cobb's agent would be meeting with the Packers at the Combine. Would Ted actually be able to stop drooling over the rooks long enough to close a deal for Cobb?

[gbgary]

you don't let difference makers get away. remember those bf years without difference makers on o?! there's plenty of cap room to resign our best guys and then some.

[red]

you don't let difference makers get away. remember those bf years without difference makers on o?! there's plenty of cap room to resign our best guys and then some.

i said the exact same thing during jennings last year, until he and his sister went all nazi on us

we survived

most of us didn't like to see a very solid #3 in james jones leave last year, we drafted 3 rookies and moved on

we survived

i love cobb, but some people need to prepare for the very real possibility that he will not be a packer in just over 2 weeks

[Joemailman]

i said the exact same thing during jennings last year, until he and his sister went all nazi on us

we survived

most of us didn't like to see a very solid #3 in james jones leave last year, we drafted 3 rookies and moved on

we survived

i love cobb, but some people need to prepare for the very real possibility that he will not be a packer in just over 2 weeks

Jennings and Jones were not ascending players when TT let them leave. And they weren't 24 years old either. The Packers would survive without Cobb, but it would be very out of character for TT to let Cobb leave at this point.

[pittstang5]

I like Cobb, I want to see him as a Packer. If he's not resigned, I'll survive, but I DO NOT want to see him in a Bears, Lions or Vikings uniform. That, I will not be able to live with.

[Patler]

I like Cobb, I want to see him as a Packer. If he's not resigned, I'll survive, but I DO NOT want to see him in a Bears, Lions or Vikings uniform. That, I will not be able to live with.

The Vikings will have an opening when they release Jennings.

[vince]

i said the exact same thing during jennings last year, until he and his sister went all nazi on us

we survived

most of us didn't like to see a very solid #3 in james jones leave last year, we drafted 3 rookies and moved on

we survived

i love cobb, but some people need to prepare for the very real possibility that he will not be a packer in just over 2 weeks

Big difference between then and now. I wasn't sweating the potential loss of either of those guys because Cobb was waiting in the wings. Plus, Jones is decent but eminently replaceable. Unlike years/receivers past, I'm not seeing another guy on the roster to effectively replace Cobb.

Rodgers might be able to incorporate some other guys but I'd be shocked to see Abrederis as the next 1,200 yard, 12 TD receiver at this point. We don't even know if he'll be able to stay on the field. Maybe the combination of him, Adams and Janis can fill the void, but without Cobb, Jordy's not as effective either.

They'll go on and be good but I don't see how you can argue they're as good without Cobb at this point. He's a pretty important piece.

[Patler]

i love cobb, but some people need to prepare for the very real possibility that he will not be a packer in just over 2 weeks

Careful! I said that about Jennings the year before he left, because I saw signs that he wanted to leave. I thought I might be lynched! I was "guaranteed" that GB would never let him get away, he was too important to their offense.

This situation is very different than Jennings. I think Cobb would legitimately like to stay, and GB would like to keep him. But that doesn't mean the business end will work to the satisfaction of both. You are right, he could be somewhere else in a few weeks.

[red]

Careful! I said that about Jennings the year before he left, because I saw signs that he wanted to leave. I thought I might be lynched! I was "guaranteed" that GB would never let him get away, he was too important to their offense.

This situation is very different than Jennings. I think Cobb would legitimately like to stay, and GB would like to keep him. But that doesn't mean the business end will work to the satisfaction of both. You are right, he could be somewhere else in a few weeks.

yup, at the time he was a top 5 WR and still young (29) and TT only lets guys over 30 walk. i remember those discussions

i also remember bringing up 2 years ago the fact that cobb is gonna cost a lot of money when his contract is up, and TT has proven he doesn't like/need to spend a lot of money at that position, and he already spent a good amount on one guy

and, if cobb walks, we probably get a 3rd round comp pick in 2016

[Patler]

you don't let difference makers get away. remember those bf years without difference makers on o?! there's plenty of cap room to resign our best guys and then some.

The same was said about Finley, and he is gone.
The same was said about Jennings, and he is gone.
The same was said about Walker, and he was gone.

Each had been a difference maker for the Packers and all were gone in what should have been the primes of their careers. The Packer offense barely missed a beat. It may have been different without them, but it continued to be effective none the less.

[red]

The same was said about Finley, and he is gone.
The same was said about Jennings, and he is gone.
The same was said about Walker, and he was gone.

Each had been a difference maker for the Packers and all were gone in what should have been the primes of their careers. The Packer offense barely missed a beat. It may have been different without them, but it continued to be effective none the less.

exatly my point too, i was trying to agree with you without saying so

what was our offense ranked after losing those guys?

still pretty god damn good





pssssssssst.......

its the QB, not the wr's. and the one we have now is better then the last guy was



if we lose cobb, we will still be one of the top offenses in the NFL, but we could use that 8-9 million to fix the other problems

[Guiness]

As we talk about Cobb's potential contract, what is Nelson's contract, really?

Advertised as 4yr $39M extension (5yrs $43M total) with $8.25M and $9.25M in the final two years, I wonder if he sees those paydays? Certainly the Packers protected themselves, and can have him for an average of 8.5M/yr for 3 years then cut bait when the base jumps by 3 million.

[red]

As we talk about Cobb's potential contract, what is Nelson's contract, really?

Advertised as 4yr $39M extension (5yrs $43M total) with $8.25M and $9.25M in the final two years, I wonder if he sees those paydays? Certainly the Packers protected themselves, and can have him for an average of 8.5M/yr for 3 years then cut bait when the base jumps by 3 million.

jordy's contract is insanely team friendly for the first 3 years

he got 14.5 million cash last year

this year he will make less then 2.5 million

in 2016 he'll make 6.5 million

thats insane for a player of his level

what nobody mentions is that jordys contract was an extension, just like the one we talked about with a-rod. it was not a 4 year 39 million dollar contract, it was a 4 year 39 million dollar EXTENTION. meaning it was a 5 year 39 + whatever he was suppose to originally make in 2014 (maybe a 5 year 42.5 million dollar deal, or 8.5 a year). under the 9 being mentioned for cobb

[pbmax]

Cobb is in a different situation than Jennings/Jones in that its not a slam dunk who will replace his contributions and production.

The last time it looked like this, Jennings was a rookie. Though I think the bench strength (Adams, Abbrederis and Janis) is better now than then.

Replacing receivers has gone smoothly, but it does have effects. See red zone offense.

[smuggler]

Greg was a very good player for quite a while for us. He started to fall apart psychologically when he started to fall apart physically. There was talk, for the longest time, about how he did not want to play football well into his thirties, that he wanted to do something else with his life. But the ego is a very difficult thing to overcome...

[gbgary]

we're in better cap shape this year than those other years. taking one step back and one step forward hasn't gotten us anywhere. he'll get signed.

[mraynrand]

taking one step back and one step forward hasn't gotten us anywhere.

but you're on your way to the hokey pokey

[Smidgeon]

Cobb's agent making a play for more money from the Pack?

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...-randall-cobb/