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    Quote Originally Posted by Tony Oday View Post
    He would probably help in the red zone. He's terrible in pass pro though, so I don't know if the Packers would want to pay him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by denverYooper View Post
    He would probably help in the red zone. He's terrible in pass pro though, so I don't know if the Packers would want to pay him.
    I'd like to think he'd be running routes in those situations.
    From what I've read, he's not a willing blocker in any context. I don't really have a problem with that if he can stay healthy. Double digit TDs but no real amazing stats besides that. I can't see him getting a Graham style contract...

    I'd still hate to lose Cobb though

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    Quote Originally Posted by mraynrand View Post
    Rule#2: Don't believe everything you read on @rcobb18
    Exactly, you should question both sides. Both sides are trying to leverage for the best deal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mraynrand View Post
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    No kidding.

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    I think I would be pretty disappointed if we let Cobb walk but then ponied up for Julius Thomas. That 3rd round comp pick probably plays into the Cobb decision a bit. But it disappears if we sign a qualifying free agent...

    I'd rather just keep Cobb..

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    I'm fairly certain Cobb would prefer to stay in Green Bay if the money is comparable...but it is starting to appear that Thompson isn't willing to pay a comparable amount at this point. If Cobb gets to the open market, I don't see much chance of Green Bay retaining him. The money is going to be FLYING this offseason.
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    There's no information out there that indicates truly what TT is thinking. We're jumping to a lot of conclusions based on every little tweet (I am too!), but this is all part of the posturing and dance process.
    Sam Shields was signed in the 11th hour and I suspect Cobb will too. Just doesn't make sense to let him go...

    What are they comfortable paying him? 7? 8? I don't think you walk over $1m... gotta get it done and I suspect it will.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mission View Post
    Just doesn't make sense to let him go...
    also doesn't make sense to keep him after we spent 3 draft picks last year on wr's and already have 1 wr making big bucks and a QB who is getting paid huge $$$$ to make everyone around him better

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    Quote Originally Posted by mission View Post
    There's no information out there that indicates truly what TT is thinking. We're jumping to a lot of conclusions based on every little tweet (I am too!), but this is all part of the posturing and dance process.
    Sam Shields was signed in the 11th hour and I suspect Cobb will too. Just doesn't make sense to let him go...

    What are they comfortable paying him? 7? 8? I don't think you walk over $1m... gotta get it done and I suspect it will.
    I don't want TT to piss around...simply sign him yesterday.
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    Quote Originally Posted by woodbuck27 View Post
    I don't want TT to piss around...simply sign him yesterday.
    It's Cobb who has to sign. TT can't force him to do anything. There's speculation as to how much Cobb is asking for, but we don't really know anything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joemailman View Post
    It's Cobb who has to sign. TT can't force him to do anything. There's speculation as to how much Cobb is asking for, but we don't really know anything.
    I know TT's style...let him get out and seek his best value on the market.

    So much for draft and develop.

    TT has to get more pro active and not allow a prized talent like Cobb get away Joe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by woodbuck27 View Post
    I know TT's style...let him get out and seek his best value on the market.

    So much for draft and develop.

    TT has to get more pro active and not allow a prized talent like Cobb get away Joe.
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    Signed before FA starts:
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    4. Hawk
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    Quote Originally Posted by woodbuck27 View Post
    I know TT's style...let him get out and seek his best value on the market.

    So much for draft and develop.

    TT has to get more pro active and not allow a prized talent like Cobb get away Joe.
    Is your only definition of pro active that TT signs who you think he should sign?
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    I don't think so. Just because he hits open free agency, it doesnt mean he's gone. In fact, it's possible Green Bay would need to pay the premium more now than after the start.

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    cobb has no reason to post what he did if it wasn't a genuine feeling. there's absolutely no reason not to sign him.

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    $9M is a fair deal for Cobb if you consider him to be the best slot WR in the NFL currently...which I think is reasonable to assume. The cap is set to move from $130M to $160M by as soon as next year. That is a 23% increase. If you say that Victor Cruz's deal (counting the cheaper extended year) was worth around $7.5M per year as an elite slot receiver in the league a few years back, then Cobb asking for $9.25M per year is a reasonable request given the 23% increase in the salary cap.

    If Thompson believed that, the deal would be done by now. The fact that Cobb has OPENLY STATED he is agreeable to a fair contract value, and yet is not signed, should be concerning to you if you believe Cobb should be resigned. Cobb isn't asking for the moon...so it stands to reason that Thompson is being stingy or just doesn't really want to put more money into the receiver position.
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    Quote Originally Posted by King Friday View Post
    $9M is a fair deal for Cobb if you consider him to be the best slot WR in the NFL currently...which I think is reasonable to assume. The cap is set to move from $130M to $160M by as soon as next year. That is a 23% increase. If you say that Victor Cruz's deal (counting the cheaper extended year) was worth around $7.5M per year as an elite slot receiver in the league a few years back, then Cobb asking for $9.25M per year is a reasonable request given the 23% increase in the salary cap.

    If Thompson believed that, the deal would be done by now. The fact that Cobb has OPENLY STATED he is agreeable to a fair contract value, and yet is not signed, should be concerning to you if you believe Cobb should be resigned. Cobb isn't asking for the moon...so it stands to reason that Thompson is being stingy or just doesn't really want to put more money into the receiver position.
    With all due respect, what Cobb has said is just as meaningless as all the tweets, rumors and reports. Do you really expect him to say; "At this point, I am demanding a totally outrageous contract, because I think there might be a fool or two out there who will pay it."

    What player doesn't think he is asking for a reasonable amount, regardless of what it is? Just because Cobb thinks he is being reasonable doesn't mean he really is being reasonable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by King Friday View Post
    $9M is a fair deal for Cobb if you consider him to be the best slot WR in the NFL currently...which I think is reasonable to assume. The cap is set to move from $130M to $160M by as soon as next year. That is a 23% increase. If you say that Victor Cruz's deal (counting the cheaper extended year) was worth around $7.5M per year as an elite slot receiver in the league a few years back, then Cobb asking for $9.25M per year is a reasonable request given the 23% increase in the salary cap.

    If Thompson believed that, the deal would be done by now. The fact that Cobb has OPENLY STATED he is agreeable to a fair contract value, and yet is not signed, should be concerning to you if you believe Cobb should be resigned. Cobb isn't asking for the moon...so it stands to reason that Thompson is being stingy or just doesn't really want to put more money into the receiver position.
    The longer the negotiations take the more the rumors fly. I'm not going to worry about something we have no control over. I suspect they are still talking as we type.

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